[Recount]

[ANCHOR=Kimberly]

[NEWSCAST=Mornin]
[WRITER=kmc]
[TAPE#=net]
[GRAPHIC=Election 2000]


Good Morning, I'm Kimberly McBroom.
It promises to be another busy day for Florida's seven State Supreme Court justices.
They'll be hearing arguments over George W- Bush's certified victory in the state.
Attorneys for Al Gore are hoping the high court will order recounts of thousands of disputed ballots in Miami- Dade and Palm Beach Counties.
Meanwhile, it's the second day of trials over absentee ballot applications.
Here with the latest is Jennifer Jones in Tallahassee.
[LIVE=Jennifer Jones/FULL]
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[SUPER=705-Tallahassee;]


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[IN Q=]
[SUPER=703-Tallahassee, FL;]
[SUPER=701-Edward Stafman/Plaintiff's Attorney;]
[SUPER=701-John McKay/(R) Florida Senate President;]
[SUPER=701-George W. Bush/(R) Presidential Candidate;]
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((Locator: Tallahassee, FL This morning Florida's State Supreme Court weighs in on Campaign Two Thousand.again. The question at hand: Whether to uphold or overturn a lower court's ruling -- that denied Vice President Al Gore's request for selected manual recounts.

On Wednesday --- a much different battle unfolded. In two cases from

Seminole and Martin Counties-- democrats claim republicans tampered with -absentee- ballots... so they should be thrown out. Republicans claim they were valid-- and should be counted. A ruling in the Vice President's favor could throw out thousands votes and send him to the White House.

SOT: Edward Stafman/Martin Co. Plaintiff's Atty.

"This trial is about intentional misconduct relating to various Florida statutes."
But according to one possible scenario-- these trials would become meaningless. Florida's Republican-dominated State Legislature says it will now hold a special session on Friday to pick a slate of electors.

SOT: John McKay/R-Florida Senate President

"I am embark on a special session not to advocate either position of the two protagonists, but as a constitutional officer with a responsibility to represent the best interests of all Floridians."
The senate and house leaders claim they are under no pressure from the Bush campaign. The Texas Governor --meanwhile --is moving ahead as if he were President-Elect.

SOT: Gov. George W. Bush/R-Presidential Candidate

"In terms of the White House staff, I have spoken fairly directly to people about possible service in the White House and there will be an appropriate moment to name these people." ))
[LIVE=Jennifer Jones/FULL]
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[11Goins]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=equ]
[TAPE#=00-42 TC1:41:01]
[GRAPHIC=Chris Goins]


Governor Gilmore refused to stop the execution of Christopher Goins.
The convicted murderer was pronounced dead just after nine o-clock last night.
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[VO-NAT]
[SUPER=03-Richmond/October 1994;]


Six years ago, Goins killed five members of his pregnant girlfriend's family, wounded his girlfriend and her daughter, and killed the fetus she was carrying.
It was the worst mass murder in Richmond history.
Goins turned 27 yesterday.
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[11Farmville-Murders]


[ANCHOR=Shannon]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=dse]
[TAPE#=00-15 TC1:21:08]
[GRAPHIC=Legal Scales]


The man accused of killing his ex-wife and her mother won't stand trial-- he was found temporarily incompetent.
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[VO-NAT]


53-year old Reginald Varner was also ordered to a mental facility yesterday.
His lawyer says he could be found competent to be tried later.
[SUPER=03-Farmville/July]


In July, Varner's ex-wife, Susan Varner, and her mother, Suzanne Arena, were found murdered in their homes.
The two owned Suzi's Antiques, a downtown Farmville shop that supplied Hollywood with movie costumes and sold vintage garments to celebrities.
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[Pope]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=Morning]
[WRITER=kmc]
[TAPE#=net]
[GRAPHIC=none]


The White House is among those criticizing the conviction of an American businessman of spying charges in Russia.

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[VO-NAT]
[SUPER=03-Moscow, Russia;]


It took the court only two hours yesterday to find Edmond Pope guilty of espionage.
He's the first American convicted of spying in Russia in 40 years.
The 54-year-old retired U-S Navy officer denies being a spy.
He says the plans for a high-speed torpedo that he obtained were NOT classified.
Meanwhile, his wife Cheryl says the 20- year prison sentence amounts to a death sentence for Pope, who suffers from bone cancer.
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[SOT 3:22:13]
[IN Q=I really believe]

((CHERYL POPE/WIFE: I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE DON'T GET HIM TO A HOSPITAL SOON, HE WILL DIE.))
[SUPER=01-Cheryl Pope/Wife;]
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[OUT Q=he will die.]
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[VO-NAT]


Pope has seven days to appeal the sentence.
But he's still hoping for a pardon on medical grounds from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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[11Winesett]


[ANCHOR=Shannon]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=mjo]
[TAPE#=00-37 TC1:52:15]
[GRAPHIC=none]


A new house is being built for the Wythe County man who fell through the floor of his outhouse four months ago.
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[VO-NAT]
[SUPER=03-Wytheville;]


75-year-old Coolidge Winesett spent three days trapped under his privy in August, after the floorboards broke.
[SUPER=03-Wythe Co.;]


Next month, he'll move into his new, FREE home with indoor plumbing.
It was paid for with state grants made available through a community assistance program.
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[IN Q=The Bible says]

((COOLIDGE WINESETT: THE BIBLE SAYS BEWARE OF THE UNEXPECTED. AND THAT WAS THE MOST UNEXPECTED THING THAT HAPPENED TO ME.)) ((MAXINE WALLER/VA WATER PROJECT PROGRAM DIRECTOR: MR. WINESETT WHEN HE FELL IN THE PRIVY, IT WAS A TRAGEDY, BUT OUT OF THAT TRAGEDY, WE'VE HAD A MIRACLE.))
[SUPER=07-Coolidge Winesett; :00]
[SUPER=01-Maxine Waller/Virginia Water Project; :07]
[RUNS=:15]
[OUT Q=had a miracle.]
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[VO-NAT]


Waller says that many people who heard about Winesett's accident and need indoor plumbing are seeking help.
People around the country sent Winesett more than three-thousand dollars in checks and cash.
He plans to use it to buy furniture and a new porch where he can play the fiddle with friends.
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[USS-Wisconsin]


[ANCHOR=Kim]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=kor]
[TAPE#=none]
[GRAPHIC=none]


The retired battleship USS Wisconsin embarks on a new mission today. To mark the 59th anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the World War Two era ship will be moved to its new home along Norfolk's downtown waterfront. Tugboats will tow the Wisconsin about a mile and a half up the Elizabeth River from the Norfolk Naval Shipyard in Portsmouth this morning to a berth next to the Nauticus maritime center.




[11SOL-Questions]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=ejo]
[TAPE#=00-39 TC1:27:52]
[GRAPHIC=Standards of Learning]


You can take a look at the Standards of Learning test questions on-line.
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[VO-NAT]


Virginia's Department of Education put last spring's English, math and science questions on the Internet .. along with answers and an explanation of each question's purpose.
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[TAKE WEB WATCH FS]
For a direct link to the S-O-L question site, log onto to WDBJ7-dot-com, and click "Webwatch."
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[11Gilmore-Education]


[ANCHOR=Shannon]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=equ]
[TAPE#=None]
[GRAPHIC=SOL's]


Students who "narrowly fail" the S-O-L tests may be allowed to immediately retake them in the same academic year.
[SS=VA Budget]


That proposal will be part of Governor Jim Gilmore's final budget- That's according to an administration source who spoke to News 7.
Today, the Governor will also announce he's kept his promise to fund four thousand new teachers.
In previous budgets, the Governor had given localities money for about 39- hundred new teachers.
His new budget will cover the final 100 teachers.
Gilmore will unveil his entire budget in two weeks.

[11Pacifier-Recall]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=jha]
[TAPE#=None]
[GRAPHIC=Recall]


About 16-thousand baby pacifiers are being recalled because of a choking hazard.
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[TAKE FULL SCREEN BOARD]
The consumer product safety Commission says the Pacee pacifiers - produced by Small Beginnings - are intended for premature babies.
But the package doesn't say that and the smaller pacifiers are a choking hazard for normal sized babies. [TAKE NEXT PAGE]
The pacifiers are blue with a butterfly-shaped shield.
They come in a plastic bag with a picture of a baby sleeping with a teddy bear.
No injuries have been reported.
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[Health-Check]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=Morn]
[WRITER=chr]
[TAPE#=NET]
[GRAPHIC=Mornin Health Check]


In medical news, a new study suggests stress can work against the flu shot.

Doctor Dave Hnida has that story and more in this morning's Health check.
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[SUPER=01-Dr. Dave Hnida/Reporting; :00 ]
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[OUT Q=CBS News, New York.]


((Information: ON CAM WHEN YOU GO IN FOR A FLU OR PNEUMONIA SHOT THIS YEAR-- BE SURE YOURE NICE AND RELAXED. A NEW STUDY SUGGESTS GIVING A VACCINE TO SOMEONES WHO'S STRESSED OUT MAY BE A WASTE OF TIME AND NEEDLE.

VT=VO

RESEARCHERS AT OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY FOUND WHEN PEOPLE UNDER CHRONIC STRESS WERE GIVEN PNEUMONIA SHOTS- THE SHOTS DIDN'T TAKE. THE REASON: THEIR STRESS LEVELS WERE SO HIGH- THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS COULDN'T HANDLE THE VACCINE. NOW IN GENERAL WE DON'T IMMUNIZE KIDS OR ADULTS WHO ARE SICK-- NOT BECAUSE THEY'LL GET SICKER- BUT BECAUSE THE IMMUNIZATIONS WONT WORK.. BUT THAT'S PHYSICAL ILLNESS. THIS IS THE FIRST STUDY TO SHOW MENTAL STRESS CAN MAKE A VACCINE NOT WORK AS WELL.

VT=VO

ALSO TODAY- IF YOU GET THE FLU - GO EASY ON THE ACETAMINOPHEN OR TYLENOL. - IT MAY MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER IN THE SHORT RUN- BUT KEEP YOU SICKER IN THE LONG RUN.RESEARCH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND SHOWS PEOPLE WITH FLU WHO AVOIDED MEDICINES TO LOWER FEVER GOT BETTER 3 DAYS QUICKER THAN THOSE PEOPLE WHO TOOK SOMETHING LIKE ACETAMINOPHEN TO LOWER FEVER.. SO WHATS GOING ON HERE- ONE THOUGHT IS: SOMETIMES FEVER IS GOOD- HELPING YOUR BODY FIGHT INFECTION-

VT=VO

FINALLY TODAY- GOT A CRANKY BABY? ITS GOT TO BE TEETHING- RIGHT? WRONG - SAYS A STUDY IN THE JOURNAL PEDIATRICS- WHICH FOLLOWED A GROUP OF TODDLERS WHO WERE CHECKED DAILY FOR NEW TEETH BREAKING THROUGH. THEY FOUND: NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN NEW TEETH , FEVER, RUNNY NOSE, OR CRANKINESS- EXCEPT WHEN IT WAS THE PARENTS WHO WERE TIRED AND CRANKY.
ON CAM THAT'S A LOOK AT SOME OF THE DAYS TOP HEALTH STORIES. IM DR DAVE HNIDA FOR CBS NEWS.))

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[2-HEADLINES]
[2-shot=KMC/SYO]
[SUPER=#4049; Morning Headlines]
[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


Here's a look at today's top stories.
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[VO-NAT]
[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


Authorities have charged a 17- year- old in Bedford county with murder.
The shooting happened yesterday morning at this home on Johnson Mountain Road.
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[VO-NAT]
[ANCHOR=Shannon]


Local authorities are receiving help from FEDERAL investigators in their search for the cause of a fatal house fire.
Nearly, five years ago, the blaze claimed the lives of a woman and her four grandchildren on Stewart Avenue.
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[VO-NAT]
[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


And Lynchburg's school system is trying to keep its students in class. It's unveiled a new program called "the goal for you is one-82" That's the number of days in a school year.
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[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


And that's what's making news on this Thursday, December 7th .
[ANCHOR=Shannon]


News 7 Mornin' will be right back.



[2-Recount]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=Mornin]
[WRITER=kmc]
[TAPE#=net]
[GRAPHIC=Election 2000]


Good Morning, I'm Kimberly McBroom.
Florida's judicial system will be in high gear again today.
First, the state supreme court will hear arguments concerning George W- Bush's certified win.
Al Gore's attorneys want the high court to order recounts of thousands of contested ballots.
Also-- two trials on alleged tampering of absentee ballot applications both enter a second day in Tallahassee.
Democrats say they lost votes because Republican officials filled in missing information on ballots from two counties.
The Republicans deny it.
Jennifer Jones joins us once again with the latest from Florida.
[LIVE=Jennifer Jones/FULL]
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[SOT]
[IN Q=]
[SUPER=703-Tallahassee, FL;]
[SUPER=701-Edward Stafman/Plaintiff's Attorney;]
[SUPER=701-John McKay/(R) Florida Senate President;]
[SUPER=701-George W. Bush/(R) Presidential Candidate;]
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[OUT Q=]

((Locator: Tallahassee, FL This morning Florida's State Supreme Court weighs in on Campaign Two Thousand.again. The question at hand: whether to uphold or overturn a lower court's ruling -- that denied Vice President Al Gore's request for selected manual recounts.

On Wednesday --- a much different battle unfolded. In two cases from

Seminole and Martin Counties-- democrats claim republicans tampered with -absentee- ballots... so they should be thrown out. Republicans claim they were valid-- and should be counted. A ruling in the Vice President's favor could throw out thousands votes and send him to the White House.

SOT: Edward Stafman/Martin Co. Plaintiff's Atty.

"This trial is about intentional misconduct relating to various Florida statutes."
But according to one possible scenario-- these trials would become meaningless. Florida's Republican-dominated State Legislature says it will now hold a special session on Friday to pick a slate of electors.

SOT: John McKay/R-Florida Senate President

"I am embark on a special session not to advocate either position of the two protagonists, but as a constitutional officer with a responsibility to represent the best interests of all Floridians."
The senate and house leaders claim they are under no pressure from the Bush campaign. The Texas Governor --meanwhile --is moving ahead as if he were President-Elect.

SOT: Gov. George W. Bush/R-Presidential Candidate

"In terms of the White House staff, I have spoken fairly directly to people about possible service in the White House and there will be an appropriate moment to name these people." ))
[LIVE=Jennifer Jones/FULL]
[SUPER=705-Tallahassee;]






[11Bedford-Murder]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=jda]
[TAPE#=00-38 TC1:29:36]
[GRAPHIC=Murder]


A 17- year- old is charged with murder following a shooting in Huddleston.
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[VO-NAT]
[SUPER=03-Bedford Co.]


Authorities were called to the home on Johnson Mountain Road shortly before six yesterday morning.
There they found 43- year- old Peter Kimberly Martinez (MAR-tin-ez) lying on the bedroom floor. He had been shot in the head.
They arrested a 17-year old, who also lived in the home.
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[SOT 00:15:23]
[IN Q=We have a motive]

((WE HAVE A MOTIVE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON IT AT THIS TIME, DUE TO THE SENSITIVE NATURE OF THE CASE.))
[SUPER=01-Ricky Gardner/Bedford Co. Sheriff's Dept.]
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[OUT Q=sensitive nature of the case.]
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[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[GRAPHIC=none]


Investigators are not releasing the suspect's name because he is underage.
Neighbors say the victim shared the house with his wife Dawn, and his 17- year-old son Eric. Dawn Martinez was not injured.
The suspect is being held in the Lynchburg Detention Center.

[11Eminent-Domain]


[ANCHOR=Shannon]
[NEWSCAST=Mornin]
[WRITER=mce]
[TAPE#=00-44]
[GRAPHIC=None]

As several controversial projects move forward in western Virginia, opponents are joining forces to change state law.


They hope to modify the statute that allows local governments and utilities to acquire property without a landowner's consent. Meredyth Censullo has more on a battle that's brewing over the right of eminent domain.
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[SOT]
[IN Q=SMPAC...]
[SUPER=03-Roanoke Co./File Tape; :00]
[SUPER=01-Brad Allen/"Va. Property Rights Coalition"; :30]
[SUPER=@Meredyth1;]
[RUNS=1:32]
[OUT Q=News7]

(("SMPAC" opposes the Virginia Gas Pipeline Project. The I-73 "Regional Action Network" doesn't want an interstate crossing the Blue Ridge Parkway. And there's opposition to new power lines and a proposed biomedical center.
Now members of these groups have formed the Virginia Property Rights Coalition, to insure if their land is condemned, they'll receive what they consider fair and just compensation.
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[SOT @ 6:50 - 7:08]
[IN Q=They get that...]

((THEY GET THAT INITIAL OFFER, LOOK AT IT, CALL AN ATTORNEY, THE ATTORNEY SAYS "I'M GONNA CHARGE YOU X, Y, Z...THEY SETTLE BECAUSE THEY FIGURE "I MAKE MORE MONEY IF I SETTLE VERSUS GOING THROUGH ALL THE HEARTACHE OF A COURT CASE - .)) [RUNS:18]
[OUT Q=court case.]


Brad Allen is on the Virginia Property Rights Coalition's board of Directors. He says property owners who take condemnors to court over the value of their land should be compensated for legal fees if they win .. Right now, they aren't, even if a judge rules in their favor.

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[SOT 7:33 - 7:52]
[IN Q=If they make...]

((IF THEY MAKE A FAIR OFFER THIS NEVER HAPPENS...NO ONE GOES TO COURT, NO LITIGATION EXPENSES ARE AWARDED...THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A FAIR CHECKS AND BALANCES.)) [RUNS:11]
[OUT Q=and balances.]


MEREDYTH CENSULLO: MEANWHILE, THE CITY OF ROANOKE WILL BE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION..IN IT'S 2001 LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, CITY COUNCIL WENT ON RECORD OPPOSING NEW RESTRICTIONS ON THE EMINENT DOMAIN POWERS OF STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. MEREDYTH CENSULLO, NEWS7. ))


[11School-Truancy]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=tha]
[TAPE#=00-41 TC59:53]
[GRAPHIC=None]

Lynchburg is trying to gain the upper hand on truancy.
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[VO-NAT]
[SUPER=03-Lynchburg;]

The school system unveiled a new program yesterday afternoon called "the goal for you is one-82" That's the number of days in a school year. The program reaches out to the community. School officials will contact business owners and others to urge them to speak out about the importance of students staying in school. They say this is especially important with S-O-L testing.
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[SOT 00:01:39]
[IN Q=If you're ]

((ANNE BOND-GENTRY/LYNCHBURG SCHOOLS: IF YOU'RE NOT IN SCHOOL YOU'RE MISSING INFORMATION AND YOU NEED TO DO WELL ON THOSE TESTS.))
[SUPER=01-Anne Bond-Gentry/Lynchburg Schools;]
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[OUT Q=those tests.]
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[VO-NAT]

School officials say students who skip school are also likely to get into trouble. They invite anyone who feels a student is truant to contact the main office for Lynchburg city schools.
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[Tax-Relief]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=Mornin]
[WRITER=kmc]
[TAPE#=none]
[GRAPHIC=none]


It looks like tax relief and minimum wage legislation are on hold, for now.
Senate Republicans are dropping plans for a 10- year, 240- billion- dollar tax cut package.
They're hoping to pursue much broader tax cuts next year if George W- Bush wins the Presidency.
The delay will also postpone plans to boost the minimum wage.
A one- dollar- an- hour minimum wage increase had been part of the tax package.

[11Stewart-Fire]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=khu]
[TAPE#=00-40 TC1:40:05]
[GRAPHIC=Fire Invest.]


FEDERAL investigators have joined forces with local authorities to find the cause of a fatal house fire.
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[V/O NAT SOT]


It has been nearly five years since Christine Duncan and her four grandchildren died in the house on Stewart Avenue.
[SUPER=03-Roanoke/January 1996]



It was only last year that local officials determined that someone set the fire. It HAD been ruled accidental.


[SUPER=04-Yesterday]


Yesterday, A-T-F agents began reconstructing the house, using a process called "Forensic Mapping."
They'll produce a three-dimensional digital image of the house by computer that'll help local fire investigators determine the exact cause of the fire.
Officials say they have suspects in mind, but so far no arrests have been made.
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[11Water-Main]


[ANCHOR=Kimberly]
[NEWSCAST=morn]
[WRITER=jmc]
[TAPE#=00-34 TC2:01:50]
[GRAPHIC=Water Main Break]


Students at a Roanoke Middle School will return to classes today.
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[VO-NAT]
[SUPER=03-Roanoke]


Students at James Madison Middle School left just before noon yesterday because of a water main break.
A 12-inch pipe broke about 5:30 yesterday morning, cutting service to the school and dozens of customers in southwest Roanoke.
Brambleton Avenue was blocked off while crews made repairs.
The road has re-opened.
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[Local-Recap]
[SUPER=#4059;Local Recap]
[2-Shot=Kmc/Syo]
[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


Now here's another look at today's top local stories:
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[VO-NAT]
[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


The man accused of killing his ex-wife and her mother won't stand trial-- he was found temporarily incompetent.
53-year old Reginald Varner was also ordered to a mental facility yesterday.
His lawyer says he could be found competent to be tried later.
In July, Varner's ex-wife, Susan Varner, and her mother, Suzanne Arena, were found murdered in their homes.

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[VO-NAT]
[ANCHOR=Shannon]


A 17- year- old is charged with murder following a shooting in Huddleston.
Authorities found 43- year- old Peter Martinez (MAR-tin-ez) lying on the bedroom floor at a home on Johnson Mountain Road yesterday morning. He had been shot in the head.
Investigators are not releasing the suspect's name because he is underage.
The suspect is being held in the Lynchburg Detention Center.

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[2-SHOT]
[ANCHOR=Kimberly]


Now here's Keith Humphry with a preview of News 7 at Six.
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