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ANCHOR=Jean

Police make an arrest in a Danville murder.
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VO-NAT


And Governor- Elect Jim Gilmore's cabinet begins to take shape.
And it includes some surprises.
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Sports-Head


ANCHOR=Steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
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In sports, an update on the Detroit Lions Reggie Brown after surgery stablelize his neck, aformer seminole and noe baltimore Raven wins NFL rookie of the year honors,
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VO-NAT


and we will take a closer look at Va. tech coach Frank Beamer and North Carolina boss Frank Torbush.
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WX-Head
TALENT=Patrick
SS=None


Clouds and a chilly rain moving in for our Christmas Eve, but Christmas day look pretty good as does the weekend after. Stay tuned for the Holiday details.

Gilmore


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6
WRITER=equ
TAPE#97-85
GRAPHIC=Jim Gilmore


Governor- elect Jim Gilmore's administration is finally starting to take shape.
And the face he's put on it so far is one of diversity and inclusion.
Double Boxes=Jean and Ellen/State Microwave


Ellen Qualls is in our Richmond newsroom.
What appointments did Gilmore make today?
Live=Ellen Full/Microwave
SUPER=@Ellen1;
SUPER=05-Richmond;


Just two cabinet secretaries and one lower agency head... but it was a group fit for the cameras today.
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SUPER=03-Richmond; :07
SUPER=01-Claude Allen/Health & Human Resources Designee; :17
SUPER=01-Shirley Ybarra/Transportation Secretary-Designee; :41
SUPER=01-Del. David Brickley/Conservation & Recreation Designee; 1:02
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((GILMORE: WE ARE SENDING...TABLE.))
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Jim Gilmore scored in several categories for those who count such things.
An African- American, deputy Attorney General Claude Allen follows his former boss to become Health and Human Resources Secretary.
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((CLAUDE ALLEN: WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CITIZENS IN THE COMMONWEALTH...LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGE.))
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Deputy Transportation Secretary Shirly Ybarra rises a notch and keeps a Hispanic at the head of the Transportation Secretariat.
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((SHIRLEY YBARRA: AND I WANT TO THANK...THE PORTS.))
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And DEMOCRATIC Delegate David Brickley of Prince William County agres to head up the troubled Department of Conservation and Recreation... NOT a cabinet appointment, but one with larger meanings.
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((DAVID BRICKLEY: IT'S WITH SOME GREAT HESITATION THAT I GIVE THAT UP...I'D LIKE TO LISTEN.))
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Q&A: Any word on the rest of the Cabinet?

Brzonkala


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A divided federal appeals court has given new life to the case of Christy Brzonkala.
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Brzonkala's the former Virginia Tech student who alleged she was raped by two former Tech football players.
Today, a three judge panel of the federal appeals court in Richmond sent her case back to Roanoke federal Judge Jackson Kiser.
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((YES ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS A VICTORY. EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT A COURT HAS SET THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. OTHER THINGS THAT CHRISTY HAS SAID THAT PEOPLE HAVE MAD FUN OF HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE.))
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The appeals court panel said, in a 2-to-1 ruling, that Brzonkala does have the right to sue Virginia Tech under Title Nine, and to sue the players under the 1994 Violence Against Women Act.
Former player Tony Morrison is now a student at Hampton University.
James Crawford is at Florida State.
The pair were never found guilty of any criminal violations in relation to Brzonkala's rape allegation.
Crawford's attorney calls the ruling "no more than a temporary victory for the Clintonistas."
Virginia Tech officials could NOT be reached for comment.
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Full screen Homepage
If you'd like to read the full text of the court's decision, you can find it in the Web Watch section of the WDBJ-7 Internet homepage.
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Murder-Arrest


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6
WRITER=tte
TAPE#none
GRAPHIC=murder investigation


Police have arrested an 18-year old Danville man for allegedly killing a North Carolina woman.
Stanford Lamont Lipscomb of (Call-quinn) Colquhoun Street faces charges of capital murder and robbery.
Police say he shot 32-year old Teresa Anderson Hayes, whose body was found in her car last weekend.


Salem-Fire


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=Six
WRITER=Dal
TAPE#97-84
GRAPHIC=fire


One person was injured and a Salem landmark severely damaged by fire this afternoon.
The call came in around 2:30.
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When fire fighters arrived at the old McVitty Carriage House, smoke was pouring out of the second story windows.
The second floor had apparently been renovated into an apartment.
One person was taken to Lewis Gale Hospital suffering from smoke inhalation.
His identity and condition are not being released yet.
There is no word on what caused the blaze.
The carriage house is located in the middle of the Ridgewood Farms community.
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Arson


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=ssm
TAPE#97-86
GRAPHIC=arson


Investigators believe a fire that gutted a Lynchburg apartment and injured a small girl was the work of an arsonist.
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VO-NAT
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Firefighters rescued 3-year old Tiana Hubbard from her burning apartment the night of December 13th.
The blaze started in the kitchen, but authorities have ruled out an accidental cause.
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((JOHN JENNINGS/LYNCHBURG FIRE MARSHAL: THERE'S CERTAIN INDICATIONS BY THE BURN PATTERNS THAT WE SEE UP THERE THAT LEAD US TO DRAW CERTAIN CONCLUSIONS. I WOULD RATHER NOT COMMENT SPECIFICALLY AT THIS POINT, THAT IN SOME WAY MIGHT HAMPER THE INVESTIGATION.))
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Jennings would "not" say whether an accelerant was used to start the fire. Samples of evidence have been sent to the state crime lab for analysis.
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Fraternity


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=Six
WRITER=Dal
TAPE#none
GRAPHIC=Roanoke College


A Roanoke College fraternity is being kicked off campus.
The school announced today it is withdrawing recognition of (pie-lambda fi) Pi Lambda Phi.
A panel made of faculty, staff, and active and Alumni fraternity members made the recommendation.
The decision comes after drug and alcohol violations were discovered in October.
The fraternity will be able to re-charter in the 2000-2001 academic year.

C'burg-Post-Office


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=THa
TAPE#97-88
GRAPHIC=none


Christiansburg's historic downtown post office will remain part of the community.
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VO-NAT
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Local officials and the Chamber of Commerce were notified yesterday that the facility will remain open for business.
Supporters have been fighting to keep the facility open for a number of months-- through phone calls and petitions.
They say the new post office, located near the New River Valley Mall was inconvenient for downtown businesses.
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((GREG SCULL/CHRISTIANSBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRES.: HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE FASTER, THEY CAN GO DOWNTOWN AND PICK IT UP FASTER, THAN YOU CAN ACROSS TOWN, AND HOPEFULLY, JUST THE CONVENIENCE OF MEETING PEOPLE AROUND TOWN, THAT'S WHAT SMALL TOWN IS ALL ABOUT. ))
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ANCHOR=JEAN
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Several key points-- such as the level of services provided at the downtown facility are still being worked out.
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HARD MUSIC UNDER
ANCHOR=Jean
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It doesn't have that familiar ring.
But coming up on News-7 at Six, we'll fund out why the sound of a modem is as gratifying to many retailers as the sound of a cash register.
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And when you get a Christmas card from Barbara Capps, you get a work of art -- literally.
(toss to Patrick)
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Gilmore


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6
WRITER=equ
TAPE#97-85
GRAPHIC=Jim Gilmore


Governor- elect Jim Gilmore's administration is finally starting to take shape.
And the face he's put on it so far is one of diversity and inclusion.
Double Boxes=Jean and Ellen/State Microwave


Ellen Qualls is in our Richmond newsroom.
What appointments did Gilmore make today?
Live=Ellen Full/Microwave
SUPER=@Ellen1;
SUPER=05-Richmond;


Just two cabinet secretaries and one lower agency head... but it was a group fit for the cameras today.
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SUPER=@Gilmore; :00
SUPER=03-Richmond; :07
SUPER=01-Claude Allen/Health & Human Resources Designee; :17
SUPER=01-Shirley Ybarra/Transportation Secretary-Designee; :41
SUPER=01-Del. David Brickley/Conservation & Recreation Designee; 1:02
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((GILMORE: WE ARE SENDING...TABLE.))
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Jim Gilmore scored in several categories for those who count such things.
An African- American, deputy Attorney General Claude Allen follows his former boss to become Health and Human Resources Secretary.
sot 03:15:15

((CLAUDE ALLEN: WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CITIZENS IN THE COMMONWEALTH...LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGE.))
runs=:15


Deputy Transportation Secretary Shirly Ybarra rises a notch and keeps a Hispanic at the head of the Transportation Secretariat.
sot

((SHIRLEY YBARRA: AND I WANT TO THANK...THE PORTS.))
runs=:12


And DEMOCRATIC Delegate David Brickley of Prince William County agres to head up the troubled Department of Conservation and Recreation... NOT a cabinet appointment, but one with larger meanings.
SOT 03:19:32

((DAVID BRICKLEY: IT'S WITH SOME GREAT HESITATION THAT I GIVE THAT UP...I'D LIKE TO LISTEN.))
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Live=Ellen Full/State Microwave
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Double Boxes=Jean and Ellen/State Microwave



Q&A: Any word on the rest of the Cabinet?

Internet-Shopping


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6
WRITER=sgo
TAPE#97-80
GRAPHIC=the internet


With two days left until Christmas, malls are bracing for a nervous stampede of last-minute shoppers.
But so far this year, mall traffic has not been as bad as past holiday seasons.
One reason is the popularity of online shopping.
DOUBLE BOXES= JEAN AND SCOTT/NEWSROOM


Scott Goldberg joins us from the newsroom.
Scott, I know a lot of people are buying presents through their computers.
But is it safe?

Jean the savvy shopper has little to worry about.
LIVE=SCOTT FULL/NEWSROOM
SUPER=@Scott1;


The truth is anytime you buy something with a credit card -- even at a mall -- there's a risk someone could get a hold of your card number and use it.
The bottom line is shopping on your computer is easy.
And if you're careful about where you shop, your computer also is safe.
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((Once upon a time, holiday shopping meant physically visiting the outlets that took your money. dissolve from malls to net
This year virtual malls on the Internet have made shopping...and spending money...much easier.
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((DR. IRENE LEECH/VIRGINIA TECH: SHOPPING ON THE INTERNET IS KIND OF LIKE LOTS OF OTHER SHOPPING; YOU FACE THE RISK OF LOSING MONEY. ))
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But losing money to cyber thieves is a new sort of risk -- one that has kept some worried shoppers from going online. natsound: cash register
There's a certain security that comes with seeing who takes your money.
On the web, you trust information like your credit card number and address will not end up in the wrong hands.
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((IRENE LEECH: THE WAY TO AVOID IT IS THE SAME KIND OF THINGS YOU WOULD DO WITH OTHER COMPANIES. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE COMPANY YOU'RE DEALING WITH IS A REPUTABLE COMPANY. ))
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Also, check your browser.
A website safe for Internet commerce tells you if the information you're sending is secure.
There ARE advantages to shopping on the web.
One site called consumer world helps comparison shoppers.
Type in what you're looking for, say a musical group, and see where you find the best deal. mall shots -- quick nat sound ?
Of course, you could do the same thing, and get more exercise the old fashioned way.
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Gassman tape
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((KEN GASSMAN/RETAIL ANALYST: SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS ARE EXTROVERTS. NOW, I'LL TELL YOU: EXTROVERTS DON'T GET THEIR SHOPPING JOLLIES SITTING IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER SCREEN.))
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Santa's list website
Maybe not.
But this year some of the jolliest -- and most traditional -- members of the gift industry seem to think it was pretty good idea to take their business online.
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LIVE=Scott Full/newsroom


Another advantage to going online is speed.
Most companies can ship your order as soon as you type in a mailing address.
DOUBLE BOXES=JEAN AND SCOTT/NEWSROOM


Of course, even the Internet won't help last-minute Christmas shoppers.
Chanukah shoppers, though...
Log on tonight, and you still have eight days for that gift to get where it's going.

Stocks


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6
WRITER=sly
TAPE#=None
GRAPHIC=NONE


A down day on Wall Street. The DOW lost
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Christmas-Cards


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=THa
TAPE#97-82
GRAPHIC=christmas


Sending Christmas cards is a tradition almost all of us share.
But searching for the perfect assortment at the local department store isn't necessary if you're familiar with Barbara Capps of Christiansburg.
Teresa Hamilton explains.
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(( With the flip of a wrist-- Barbara Capps makes it look so easy-- creating visions of Santa-- using pastels and watercolors.
It's a talent Capps has honed since childhood-- when she sold her first painting at age nine.
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((BARBARA CAPPS/ARTIST:IT WAS SCENE OF SNOWCAPPED MOUNTAINS AND A STREAM AND BEARS AND THAT SORT OF THING. ))
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These days-- it's her Santa creations that are drawing praise-- thanks to her daughter who had several of her works made into Christmas cards.
Capps says a variety of thoughts inspire her-- including the movie, "Home Alone".
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8:30:07
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((BARBARA CAPPS/ARTIST:WHEN THE THIEVES WERE CHASING THE LITTLE BOY IN THE TOY STORE I THOUGH THAT I SAW A SANTA HEAD WITH A CASTLE UNDERNEATH AND I GOT SO EXCITED BUT I WATCHED THE VIDEO SEVERAL TIMES AND I CAN'T FIND IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT CAME FROM MY HEAD OR WHETHER IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE ORIGINAL MOVIE.))
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Capps sister, Dodi Simmons, is among her biggest fans-- but don't ask her to pick a particular favorite.
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((DODI SIMMONS/CAPPS' SISTER: EACH ONE IS SO UNIQUE IN IT'S OWN WAY.))
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Capps is already busy with next year's artwork-- a collection she's dubbed "Fantasy Santa's". music
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((YOU MEAN THE BIG FAT MAN WITH THE LONG WHITE BEARD, HE'S COMING TO TOWN.))
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Teresa Hamilton, NEWS 7, Christiansburg.))

Covington-Turf


ANCHOR=Jean
NEWSCAST=6p
WRITER=jmc
TAPE#97-86
GRAPHIC=none


One of the best-manicured football fields in America is in Covington.
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SUPER=03-Covington/File Tape;


At least that's the opinion of the Sports Turf Managers Association.
They cited Casey Field at Covington High School as the top high school field in the country.
The city's recreation director, Allen Dressler, will pick up the award next month in Orlando, Florida.
The man handing it out will be George Toma, who's known for his work preparing the turf at the Super Bowl each year.
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Sports tease


ANCHOR=Steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
TAPE#none
GRAPHIC=none


This is not the first meeting between frank Beamer and UNC's Carl Torbush; a closer look at the two coaches, ttrouble on the horizon for Penn State's all american taliback?
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and the Baltimore ravens partially salvage a dismal season with an award to one of their top defensive sttars.
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S-Coaches


ANCHOR=Steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
TAPE#=TF97-2
GRAPHIC=Gator bowl


Virginia Tech and North Carolina will reunite a rivalry new years day in the Toyota Gator Bowl. 1946 was the last time they played. Virginia Tech coach frank Bemaer and North Carolina's new bposs carl Torbush also go back a ways....back to Coach Bemaer's days at Murray State.
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A closer look at this pair of defensive minded coaches in another installment of Journey tot Jacksonville.
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Torbush has found a home at North Carolina. His first coaching assignment comes against Beamer. But unlike Beamer; Torbush takes over a program already in excellent shape. ((:)) ((:)) ((:))
One common bond the two coaches share is a love for their fans. Torbush opened up practice this week to the Tarheel faithful to show his appreciation. Beamer and the Hokies devout fan following to bowl games speaks for itself. ((:))

S-Enis


ANCHOR=Steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
TAPE#=FB97-3
GRAPHIC=NCAA


Penn State is playing in the Citrus Bolw this post season. But the Nittany Lions are also dealing a prolblem surrounding tailback Curtis Enis.
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SUPER=04-NCAA; :00

The All-America running back might have accepted a gift from an agent.
He continues to practice with Penn State as the Nittany Lions prepare for the Bowl. The school has told the N-C-A-A it is investigating a report that Enis broke a rule by taking a gift.
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S-Brown


ANCHOR=steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
TAPE#=FB97-4
GRAPHIC=NFL

The NFL breathed a collectiive sigh of relief today. Detroit Lions linebacker Reggie Brown was able to move his limbs and remained in stable condition, just two days
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SUPER=03-Pontiac, MI; :00

after making a tackle that caused him to temporarily lose consciousness and motor function. Dr. Russell Nockels, who operated on the linebacker, said at news conference that Brown was not quadriplegic. The doctor also said Brown is off the ventilator and able to breathe on his own. Brown had spinal surgery Monday to fuse the first and second vertebra in his neck. He will wear a neck brace the next three months.
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S-Boulware


ANCHOR=Steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
TAPE#=FB97-5
GRAPHIC=Ravens


The baltimore Ravens had a dismal season and must now plan for next year. One bright spot has turned out to be linebacker Peter Boulware, who was named 1997
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SUPER=04-NFL; :00


NFL rookie of the year by a nationwide panel of the media that included 47 votes. The Associated Press selected the former Florida State seminole. In the pros; he was moved from defensive end to linbacker where he made a solid adjustment. He was the fourth pick in thisd year's draft. He finished the season with 11.5 sacks; second in the AFC.
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S-Jackson


ANCHOR=steve
NEWSCAST=6pm
WRITER=sma
TAPE#=S7-19
GRAPHIC=bulls

On tot the NBA where Chicago Bulls head coach Phil Jackson aims for career win number 500 tonight.
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SUPER=04-NBA; :00

His Bulls host the Los Angeles Clippers this evening. Jackson has a chance to become the fastest to reach 500 coaching victories in N-B-A history. Tonight will be his 682nd game as an N-B-A head coach. Pat Riley holds the record for fastest-to-500. He got there in 684 games. The Bulls-Clippers matchup is one of seven games on the evening N-B-A schedule.
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That does it for News-7 at Six.
Stay tuned to the CBS Evening news for the latest on the Terry Nichols Verdict.