ELECTRONIC FORUMS AND REPOSITORIES FOR THE CLASSICS
Department of History & Classics,
University of Tasmania,
In previous issues of Electronic Antiquity I gave a number of electronic forums and the like; it seems best to repeat (and revise) the information and integrate new material in an attempt to compile as thorough a 'list' as possible.
FROM OCTOBER 1994 NEW LISTS WILL NOW APPEAR
AT THE START OF EACH SECTION
If anyone has information on other groups and lists petinent to Classics and Ancient History, please let one or both of the editors know at e-mail: antiquity-editor@classics.Server.edu.au.
The size of this feature now necessitates a division into four:
- Discussion Groups
- Miscellanea (including other gopher/ ftp services and pedagogical aids)
- LATIN AND GREEK TEXTS: A large collection can be read through gopher or FTPeed from the CCT at Georgetown.
The directory is: cpet_projects_in_electronic_text.
The latest editions of the Chronicle of Higher Education may also be read through the same gopher address.
- Caesar's De Bello Gallico, Livy's Ab urbe condita I, and Virgil's Aeneid, Eclogues and Georgics: can be found on the path: On-Line Library/Classics/Latin Texts for all except Vergil, and On-Line Library/Classics/Vergil for Vergil. They are also available by FTP from wiretap.spies.com and reside in the following directories: /Library/Classic/Latin & /Library/Classic /Vergil.
- Although the above texts claim to be Text files, they seem to include little Tex formatting that could not be removed by a simple editor (usually a header and then /chap & /sec inserted at various points). Beware of books II-III of Caesar's De Bello, these are raw from the scanner and so are unedited with many ^s.
- The following 3 disks contain texts which come from Libellus, a project to make public domain Latin texts widely available. We will add to these disks and create new ones as Libellus releases more works of this kind.
Please let us know if you would like the full list, with information on how to order:
B&R Samizdat Express,
PO Box 161,
CAESAR IN LATIN
one disk, over 500 Kbytes
Caesar's Gallic Wars, books I-III; plus Rice Holmes' commentary.
CICERO, LIVY ET AL. IN LATIN
one disk, 500 Kbytes
Selected passages from Apuleius (Cupid), Ausonius (Mosella), Catullus, Horace, Cicero, and Livy. (Also from the Libellus Project.)
LATIN STUDY GUIDE
one disk, 800 Kbytes
Study Guide to Wheelock Latin by Dale A. Grote, Dept. of Foreign Languages, U. of N. Carolina
This disk includes Professor Grote's latest revisions to chapters 21-39, which he sent to us directly.
OXFORD TEXT ARCHIVE:
The Oxford Text Archive is a facility provided by Oxford University Computing Services. It has no connexion with Oxford University Press or any other commercial organisation and exists to serve the interests of the academic community by providing archival and dissemination facilities for electronic texts at low cost.
The Archive offers scholars long term storage and maintenance of their electronic texts free of charge. It manages non-commercial distribution of electronic texts and information about them on behalf of its depositors.
WHAT TEXTS DOES IT CONTAIN?
The Archive contains electronic versions of literary works by many major authors in Greek, Latin, English and a dozen or more other languages. It contains collections and corpora of unpublished materials prepared by field workers in linguistics. It contains electronic versions of some standard reference works. It has copies of texts and corpora prepared by individual scholars and major research projects worldwide. The total size of the Archive exceeds a gigabyte and there are about a thousand titles in its catalogue.
WHERE CAN I GET A CATALOGUE?
The Catalogue is available in paper form by post from the address below. New editions are published at least twice a year. It is also available in electronic form, either as a formatted file for display at a terminal or in a tagged form using SGML. These files are available from a number of different places under various names:
(1) on the Oxford VAX Cluster as
(2) from various ListServers, e.g. LISTSERV@BROWNVM
(send the mail message GET HUMANIST FILELIST for details)
(3) by anonymous FTP from Internet site black.ox.ac.uk
(22.214.171.124) in the directory /ota
Wherever you are, you can send a note to ARCHIVE@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK specifying which form you want.
WHAT ARE THE TEXTS LIKE?
Because the texts come from so many different sources, they are held in many different formats. The texts also vary greatly in their accuracy and the features which have been encoded. Some have been proof read to a high standard, while others may have come straight from an optical scanner, Some have been extensively tagged with special purpose analytic codes, and others simply designed to mimic the appearance of the printed source. The Archive does not require texts to conform to any standard of formatting or accuracy.
HOW USABLE ARE THE TEXTS?
Most of the texts can be used with commonly available text indexing and concordancing software, or can easily be converted for that purpose. All texts are held as `plain ASCII' files on magnetic tape, with no special formatting codes. Documentation of the coding s cheme used in each text is supplied with it, wherever possible.
WHAT ABOUT COPYRIGHT?
Many of the texts in the Archive are subject to some form of copyright restriction. The Archive's obligations to its depositors generally restrict use of the texts to private study and research. In some cases, depositors have also authorised use of the texts in teaching. In all cases, users of the texts must agree not to use the texts commercially and not to redistribute copies of them without consultation.
HOW DO I ACCESS THE TEXTS?
If you are a registered user of Oxford University Computing Services (i.e. you have an account on OXFORD.VAX or black), just send an e-mail message to the username ARCHIVE (on either machine) specifying which texts you want to use and for what purpose.
If you are not a registered OUCS user, you can access only texts in categories P, U and A as described further below.
P category texts are in the public domain. No formality is needed for these texts. They can be downloaded directly by anonymous FTP, from black.ox.ac.uk or from other sites offering this facility. At present, very few texts are in this category; subject to agreement with our depositors we hope to increase the number greatly in the future.
U and A texts are usually distributed on magnetic tape or cartridge, though smaller texts can be sent on diskette. We will also send copies to you via the network, if you send us the required information (i.e. a secure account-name and password), provided that this can be done with reasonable success. Where copies are made on disk or tape, we make a small distribution charge to cover media and postage which must be paid in advance.
WHAT DO THE CODES IN THE CATALOGUE MEAN?
Each title in the list is preceded by a code made of of a single letter indicating the availability of the text (U, A, P, or X), in some cases followed by a star, a number identifying the text and another single letter which gives some idea of the size of the text.
X Available only to registered OUCS users. May not be copied U Freely available for scholarly use in private research. U* Freely available for scholarly use in private research and also for teaching purposes.
A Available for scholarly use, but only with written authorisation from the depositor.
P Public domain text. Available without formality to anyone.
- Size less than 512 Kb
- Size between 512 Kb and 1 Mb
- Size between 1 and 2 Mb
- Size between 2 and 5 Mb
- Size greater than 5 Mb
Depending on format, a standard 600 foot magnetic tape will hold up to 50 texts of size category A. Most texts of size code A will fit on a standard double density floppy diskette; any text of size code A or B will fit on a standard high density diskette.
WHAT DO I DO TO ORDER A COPY OF A TEXT?
Texts with availability code P may be downloaded directly, either from our anonymous FTP server at black.ox.ac.uk [126.96.36.199] or from other FTP servers on the InterNet. For more information on using FTP, please contact your local computing service.
For all other texts, you must complete and return the proforma. For texts with availability code U, the only authorisation needed is your signature on the Order Form. For A category texts, you must also provide written authorisation from the depositor of the text; you s hould therefore ask us for depositor details before ordering. All orders must be prepaid to the account of Oxford University Computing Service, in sterling or in US dollars. We cannot issue invoices, and any orders which are not prepaid or not submitted on the standard order form will be ignored.
THE OXFORD TEXT ARCHIVE IS PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE
a new Short List of titles held at Oxford 40 titles now available in TEI format for anonymous FTP * a new FTP service for licensed access via the Internet
It's been a long time since we posted any news of our activities to this or other lists. It's not that we've been inactive -- quite the opposite in fact.
We have been converting texts to a standard TEI-compatible mark up (with much appreciated help from Jeffrey Triggs at Bellcore, and John Price-Wilkin at Virginia).
We have been experimenting with ways of saving time and money by uusing FTP, Gopher, WWW etc to deliver material rather than tapes and disks
We have been scouring the networks for new material of all kinds
We have been trying to find some additional and reliable sources of ffunding, but cannot report much progress. Any philanthropists out there, please form an orderly queue.
Our latest catalogue lists 1336 titles, in 28 languages. We have about 1.2 Gb of textual data, most of it freely available, some of it restricted in one way or another. We want more. We're particularly interested in scholarly minority-interest material which is not going to turn up on CD-anything in the foreseeable future. We don't charge fees to look after your material, and we keep track of what happens to it. We do our best to make sure that whatever texts you deposit with us are rendered as future-proof as we can make them but we don't change the information you recorded. We're archivists, not evangelists, for electronic text.
At the same time, now that some kind of standardization is at last beginning to appear, we're eager to show that old wine can be put into new bottles. So you'll find that quite a few texts are now available in more than one form -- both the original, and a "TEI- compatible" form. (When the original form is easily available elsewhere, and particularly when the TEI form has more information in it, then we may well drop the former from the catalogue. But don't worry: it's still in the Archive....)
NEW FTP SERVICES
Our ftp address is: ota.ox.ac.uk. You can log on as anonymous, quoting your e-mail address as a password.
You can also download from the above address:
ota/textarchive.list our current catalogue
ota/textarchive.info information file + order form
There are two classes of texts available from this FTP server
(a) texts which are in TEI format and which we can make freely aavailable (these all appear as category P texts in the shortlist)
(b) texts which are available only under our standard conditions of uuse, (these all appear as category U or A in the shortlist)
[Just to confuse the issue, there are also texts which appear as category P texts in the Shortlist, because they are freely available, but which we have not yet checked or converted for TEI compatibility, and which are therefore not available from our FTP server, though you may well be able to get them from someone else's. We will distribute them in the same way as (b) class texts if you insist.]
A CLASS TEXTS (Freely Available)
You can just download these without formality using standard FTP commands. In some cases there are additional usage constraints, specified in the TEI header. We also hope that you won't redistribute these texts in a mutilated state or without acknowledgment of where you got them from. We can't enforce any of these things, obviously. We think that the Internet is successful because -- and as long as -- people trust each other.
To see what (a) class texts are available now, just take a look in the directory ota. It's arranged, like the ShortList, by language, and within that by Author. There are x texts in there today, and there will be more. Each text has a conformant TEI header, and each text is a legal TEI compatible document, using a special document type definition (dtd), which you can also download from the same directory (look in ota/TEI). Eventually, there'll be some more introductory stuff on what SGML is, why the TEI is a Good Thing etc etc. Just now, we're working flat out getting the texts in there.
Here's the list of what was there when I prepared this note:
Anonymous: Gammer Gurtons Needle
Edgar Rice Burroughs: A Princess of Mars
Wilkie Collins: The Woman in White
Joseph Conrad: Lord Jim; Nigger of the Narcissus
Charles Darwin: Origin of Species
Arthur Conan Doyle: Adventures of Sherlock Holmes; Casebook of
Sherlock Holmes; His last bow; Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes; Sign
of Four; Valley of Fear; Hound of the Baskervilles; Return of
Sherlock Holmes; A Study in Scarlet
Henry James: The Europeans; Roderick Hudson; The Watch
Jack London: Klondike Tales; The Seawolf; The Call of the Wild;
Andrew Marvell: English Poems (1688)
Herman Melville: Moby Dick
John Milton: Paradise Lost
Lucy M. Montgomery: Ann of Avonlea
William Morris: News from Nowhere
Baroness Orczy: The Scarlet Pimpernel
Bram Stoker: Dracula
Antony Trollope: Lady Anna; Ayalas Angel; The Eustace Diamonds;
Can you Forgive her; Phineas Finn; Phineas Redux; Rachel Ray;
Dr Wortle's School;
Mark Twain: A Connecticut Yankee at the Court of King Arthur
H.G. Wells: The Invisible Man; The War of the Worlds; The Time Machine
(B) CLASS TEXTS : (Restricted access)
The majority of texts in the Archive are and always have been held in trust for a Depositor. Rather than keep track of a zillion different contracts with each Depositor, we worked out a single contract which is the basis of our standard user declaration form. It has served to keep us out of the law courts for the last twenty five years, so it can't have been all bad.
Because it's a contract, we have to have a signed paper copy of the declaration in our hands before we can issue copies of the texts. Once we have that declaration, we can send you copies of restricted texts, on diskette, cartridge or magnetic tape, or even over the network.
Up till this week, the only way you could get copies of (b) class texts over the network was to tell us an account and password on y our machine. We would then bash the files across to you, for free. This was a rather unsatisfactory procedure in several ways: we think we now have a better one. It's still free and it works like this:
you send us a signed order form, as usual - on the order form you specify the password of your choice - we place copies of the files you ordered in a special directory under ota, aaccess to which requires you to quote both a personal identifier (which we will give you) and the password (which you have told us) - we send you e- mail giving details of how to access the directory - you download copies of the files you ordered, using conventional ftp ccommands.
after a fixed period of time (usually about a week) your personal iidentifier is removed and the file copies deleted
**********THE DOWN SIDE************
We save until the very end of this note the inevitable piece of bad news. After 25 years, we've been told very firmly that we have to increase our prices to something a bit nearer a realistic level. Not only that, but within the European Community we must charge VAT at 17.5% on every order. We've taken this opportunity to rethink the way in which we charge slightly.
We charge only for material costs, postage and packing on orders for texts sent on magnetic media of various kinds. We have abolished the "per text" fee, and we are no longer insisting on payment in advance. We are still charging over the odds for diskettes because they take us a disproportionate amount of effort to produce.
The cost is worked out as follows:
Magnetic tape: #50 ($80) each
DC350 tape cartridge #30 ($50) each
Diskette #20 ($35) each
Invoicing charge #10 ($20) payable if order is not prepaid
Postage surcharge #10 ($20) for orders outside EC
Add VAT at 17.5% for orders within EC
We will continue to give an estimate for the cost of any order free of charge. And, of course, if you use our new FTP service, then you don't need to pay us a penny.
We look forward to hearing from you in the new academic year!
Lou Burnard and Alan Morrison
- An interesting e-book project called the Eris project makes available books to the public in e-accessible form. The list is quite long and very comprehensive and the literature on the classics such as Plato, Aristotle, Tacitus up to the modern works like Kant, Shakespeare, etc. is quite complete. The project also has Augustine's Confessions as well as Plotinus' Enneads (6 books).
The literature is at least available through gopher access (probably also available through ftp somehow) via the University of Notre Dame gopher. After entering the U of N.D. gopher, choose 3. University of Notre Dame Information, then 7. Library and Infromation Resources, then 2. Access to Electronic Books where you will find three different e-book projects and the second one is the Eris project.
- DEAD SEA SCROLLS:
The images are freely available via ftp from the Library of Congress. location: seq1.loc.gov directory: /pub/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/exhibit
The Library of Congress generally includes "viewers", i.e. expansion software to look at the compressed images on your computer. There is a directory named "viewers" in the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit:
Ftp to sumex-aim.standford.edu, change to the directory /info-mac/grf/util for a large selection of graphics viewers (download the file "00Utility-abstracts.abs" first, and read it for file descriptions).
The GIFConverter 2.3.2 works well with either monochrome or colour and will JPEG and save in additional formats (TIFF, PICT, Startup Screen)
AHB is now available electronically on www. Information on the journal, editors, types and method of submissions, as well as previous and current issues, can be accessed at:
Reviews from Scholia are available by FTP and GOPHER at
FTP: ftp.und.ac.za and then cd pub/und/classics/reviews
GOPHER: gopher.und.ac.za, housed under Campus Information System, Classics, Scholia_Reviews.
Department of Classics
University of Natal
BRYN MAWR CLASSICAL REVIEW (BMCR reviews books on Greek and Latin literature and Greek and Roman history, and has occasional notices (e.g. about conferences).
To subscribe, write to:
put nothing on subject line,then as a message:
subscribe BMCR-L your name
BRYN MAWR MEDIAEVAL REVIEW (BMMR), also of relevance to Classicists:
BMMR will publish timely reviews of current work in all areas of medieval studies, a field it will interpret as broadly as possible (chronologically, geographically, culturally, etc.). We are eager to develop a large and diverse stable of reviewers and to offer broad coverage of interesting current work from all over the world. To that end, we will be assisted by a distinguished editorial advisory board, who will themselves review for us and help us find additional reviewers; but expressions of interest from potential reviewers and of course from authors and publishers wishing to submit review copies will be welcomed by any of the editors listed above.
There will be no paper BMMR. Reviews will ship serially as they are ready. Once a month, a 'masthead' file will remind readers of the makeup of the editorial staff and contain concise instructions for subscribing, unsubscribing, back issues, and the like. (Back issues will be available by ftp and gopher [with WAIS indexing to facilitate searching] through the University of Virginia's library e- text service, as is already the case for BMCR.) There will also be a 'Books Received' file shipped monthly, with notes by books still unplaced for review -- to encourage qualified readers to volunteer.
There will also be opportunity for author's replies, discussion of earlier reviews, and well-conceived columns of opinion on the current medieval scholarly scene. At the editors' discretion, other informational material (e.g., conference announcements) may also be included.
TO SUBSCRIBE to BMMR alone:
Send mail message to:
with nothing on the subject line and the single message line:
SUBSCRIBE BMMR-L Your Name
O SUBSCRIBE TO BMMR and BMCR (new subscribers): Send mail message to:
with nothing on the subject line and the single message line:
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SPECIAL FOR current BMCR SUBSCRIBERS:
If you wish to subscribe to both, go ahead and send the message to:
email@example.com as just described, but add a second line:
If you are told you can't unsubscribe, please refer the error message to firstname.lastname@example.org -- this will happen most often to people who subscribed to BMCR some time ago from Bitnet addresses.
ARETHUSA and TAPhA are producing electronic preprints in advance of the appearance of the 'hard copy' journals.
index and abstracts of forthcoming articles are available as follows:
Enter "gopher jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu" from your mainframe account. A menu will appear thatlists various items, such as "Eisenhower Library" and "Psychology Department". Navigate to the "University Press" directory (item 7), then press the return or enter key and you'll go to a menu that includes "Johns Hopkins University Press Journals" (item 2). Navigate to this item, press return/enter, and a list of subdirectories will appear.
Item 4 is "Classics Journals -- JHU Press".
The Arethusa files are within.
Enter "ftp jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu" from your mainframe account. You'll be prompted by the line "USER (identify yourself to the host)" and should enter "anonymous" in response. You'll then be prompted for a password. Enter your user id (not your real password) and press return/enter. At the subsequent "Command:"prompt, enter
(".class" is the classics journals directory).
Then enter "dir" and the names of the files will appear.
The names of the Arethusa files are "jcare-f"
(for abstracts of forthcoming articles) and "jcare-i" (for index alphabetized by author).
For further details ask:
Romani numen soli: Faunus in Ovid's Fasti
Hugh C. Parker
University of North Carolina at Greensboro
This article is available in all-ASCII version from the ccat.sas.upenn.edu server, either by anonymous ftp (directory: /pub/TAPA) or by gopher (if you use the ccat gopher, the TAPA menu item may be found under "Electronic Publications"), but if you have "veronica" on a gopher near you, simply searching for the string TAPA will get you there. There will be additional articles shortly.
Perjury and the Unsworth Oath,
on Homer and the Homeric hymns,
by Cathy Callawya
University of Missouri at Columbia,
This article is now available by anonymous ftp (directory: /pub/TAPA)
and by gopher (directory: /Library/Journals, Newsletters and Publications/TAPA) from the server ccat.sas.upenn.edu.
For the time being, we are reluctantly using TLG Beta transcription for Greek, and this will be a nuisance in some pieces, moreso than in BMCR. I hope within the next year to have an alternative that brings Greek to you more expeditiously.
Johns Hopkins University Press reports that several journals (including AJPh) may also be obtained electronically; for information contact Susan Lewis:
The table of contents for many Classics journals can also be called up electronically via the mighty TOCS-IN list. The following extracted details have appeared elsewhere:
TOCS-IN: Tables of Contents of Interest to Classicists
Bob Kallet-Marx and Philippa Matheson
TOCS-IN, the project to put on-line current tables of contents of interest to Classicists, has now been in operation for a year. [To receive a brief description of the project, read our informational file, available by gopher or ftp: (3) or (4) below.] We are slowly but steadily increasing the number of journals we can cover: We now have tables of contents of 88 journals for 1992 (2102 articles), and our 1993 files are growing apace (599 articles from 49 journals). We must stress, however, that our hopes to improve coverage are still dependent almost entirely on volunteer help. A subsequent message will list the journals which we would like to cover if people are willing to take on the small burden of entering the TOCs of 1 or 2 annually and sending them on to Bob Kallet-Marx (RKALLET@HUMANITAS.UCSB.EDU or @HUMANITAS.BITNET). One of the virtues of TOCS-IN is speed (relative, of course), and certainly this would be especially well served if someone at the publishing end of some of the desiderated journals would kindly send us TOCs around the time of publication.
Here is a reminder of how to obtain the TOCS-IN files by ftp. In the file 'inform.toc' is a brief description of the project and the structure of the files.
If you have an internet address and can use interactive ftp, give the command 'ftp epas.utoronto.ca.' Then during the login process give 'anonymous' for your user name, and your full e- mail address as the password. Then give the following commands:
fftp> cd pub/tocs-in
ftp> get inform.toc
If you have a BITNET or EARN address, the Princeton bitnet ftp server will do it for you. The data will be sent to you in the form of e-mail messages. Send a mail message to BITFTP@PUCC, with no subject and no signature, containing these commands, each on a separate line.
FFTP epas.utoronto.ca NETDATA USER anonymous
The 'dir' command produces a list of the files available and the 'get inform.toc' command will get you a file with a list of the journals available and the most recent issue of each in the archive. When you know which files you want, omit the 'dir' command from the instruc- tions above, and change the 'get' command to get the files you want. E.g., 'get cla92-1.toc cla92-2.toc arch92- 4.toc rlne92-2.toc' You can have more than one get command in each session/message, or use 'mget' to specify multiple files: e.g., 'mget *.toc' or 'mget cla*.toc'.
Note: ftp can do various translations of the data from one machine tto another. To find out about the available ftp commands: on internet type the single word 'ftp' as a command and type '?' at the ftp> prompt; on bitnet, send a message to BITFTP@PUCC with the single word 'HELP' in it, and you will be sent a list of the available commands and what they do.
A very convenient menu for Gophering TOCS-IN has been set up at the U. of Pennsylvania, thanks to J. O'Donnell:
Aim your gopher at 'ccat.sas.upenn.edu' (on some mainframes you can type 'gopher ccat.sas.upenn.edu' at the command line) and choose '8.' from the first menu ('Electronic Publications and Resources'), then '10.' ('Journals in Classics'). [Note that on the second screen you will also find the Bryn Mawr Classical Review (2.), articles from the upcoming issue of TAPA (19.), and also lots of other material of interest to humanists.]
Once you have chosen '10. Journals in Classics', you will be offered '1. info.toc' (which allows you to browse inform.toc), and '2. tocs-in/' the directory on epas.utoronto.ca, where all the toc files are stored. Choose 2., and browse any file (by selecting the file and typing return) or use any of the other functions available in your gopher program. These may include downloading (on some gophers, type 'D', then choose the method of transmission, e.g., kermit, from the dialog box, and finally set your PC to receive when prompted), saving the file to your mainframe account (type 's'), or sending the file to yourself by e-mail (view it, quit, and type 'm').
- ) The gopher menus for TOCS-IN at Penn are still experimental and may be modified.
- ) gophers differ: the procedures for retrieving the files may be quite different through your gopher.
- ) some gophers 'guess' that the archXX-X.toc files are binary (they are marked
in one) -- ignore, they are all normal ascii text files.
III. DISCUSSION GROUPS
ROMAN ART AND ARCHAEOLOGY
The Interdepartmental Program in Classical Art and Archaeology at the University of Michigan would like to announce a new Internet discussion group for , tentatively entitled "ROMARCH".
If you are interested in joining ROMARCH, please respond, by April 1, _with_ your opinion on whether the list should be moderated or unmoderated, to:
(note: to avoid annoying your colleagues, remember to respond ONLY TO ME, _not_ to the list or person from whom you received this notice!) IF there is sufficient positive response, the discussion group will be set up in early April, and sign-on instructions will be sent to all respondents, as well as to these lists. A short prospectus of ROMARCH follows; please forward this notice to any potentially interested parties (particularly our colleagues in Italy or other former provinces around the mare nostrum).
ROMARCH will have as its theme the material cultures of ancient Italy, from ca. 1000 B.C. to A.D. 500, with a focus on Roman issues and problems. Both the Italian peninsula and the provinces of Rome will be considered fair game.
Ideally, this group will foster communication between professionals, students, and laypersons. It will serve as an exchange for queries and answers, act as a bulletin board for recent discoveries and news, be a sounding board for those wishing to test their ideas or arguments, and become a 'forum' for general discussions on a wide range of issues.
Whether the group should be moderated (i.e. I collect all messages, sort through and re-compile them into packages of messages that I send out to you), or unmoderated (people post directly to the list, without any editing on my part) is an open question. Please voice your opinion on this matter when you respond to this announcement.
_ad hominem_ attacks will be considered in the poorest taste, and will be roundly condemned if they appear on-list (if the list is moderated, they will be deleted), but vigorous debate about issues or evidence is actively encouraged!
In the tradition of successful lists such as 'aegeanet', when queries are posted to the list, responses should be given off-list, and the original inquisitor then assumes responsibility for compiling the useful responses and re-posting them to the list for the benefit of all.
I look forward to a mountain of positive e-mail responses in the next week; if you have any further questions about ROMARCH, I will try to answer them as promptly as possible; please include them with your response. Apologies in advance to those who receive multiple copies of this notice. Thank you.
Pedar W. Foss "fors sua cuique loco est"
Kelsey Museum of Archaeology
University of Michigan
NUMISM-L (ANCIENT/MEDIEVAL NUMISMATICS)
NUMISM-L is an unmoderated list that provides a discussion forum for topics relating to the numismatics of Antiquity and the Middle Ages. It is not a collector's list, nor is it exclusively scholarly; but it is for serious students of coinage up to c.1454. It also offers an opportunity to announce the discovery of new coin hoards, newly discovered varieties (as well as newly identified forgeries), new books, recent thefts, and upcoming conferences. Coin shows and coin sales also may be announced, but sales of specific coins are absolutely forbidden, and anyone offering specific coins for sale will be summarily removed from the list.
Potential Audience: Historians, Classicists, Medievalists, Byzantinists, Art Historians, Archaeologists, Economists, and Numismatists.
To subscribe, send a note to:
SUBSCRIBE NUMISM-L your name
Ralph W. Mathisen, Dept. of History,
Univ. of S. Carolina, Columbia SC 29208, USA
(for information on technical matters: subscribing, settings, etc.)
William E. Metcalf, Chief Curator,
American Numismatic Society,
Broadway at 155th St., New York, N.Y. 10032, USA
email: email@example.com Phone: 212-234-3130.
(for information on editorial and specialized numismatic matters)
Classics Discussion GrouP
carries news, views, and requests for information pertinent to mainly literary classical Greek and Latin things (though can have irrelevant material at times).
To subscribe, write to:
put nothing on subject line, then as a message:
subscribe CLASSICS your name
NEW FEATURE as of 15/2/95:
You can now get a moderated version of CLASSICS by sending email to the listowner and asking that your subscription be moved to the moderated list.
Send email to LWRIGHT@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU.
The moderated list only sends about 4-5 postings daily from the regular interactive list. Items forwarded are announcements, job openings, news items, vel sim. There is no discussion on the moderated list.
Classics Bulletin Board:
carries views and requests for information pertinent to most areas of studies; oriented more for students than the CLASSICS-L discussion group.
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Ancient History Discussion Group:
carries news, views, and requests for information pertinent to the history of the Mediterranean.
To subscribe, write to:
put nothing on subject line, then as a message:
subscribe ANCIEN-L your name
The Enkidu-l list will be a scholarly discussion located in cyberspace devoted to methodological issues of studying ancient texts. While the texts we study will focus upon those produced in the ancient Mediterranean cultures before 600 CE, any of the tropes inscribed in those texts and used as cultural icons by later writers and artists are grist for our mill. Example: Thomas Mann's Joseph and His Brothers would be considered a midrash on the Joseph novella in the Hebrew Bible. Speculations about Mann's possible reasons for using the Joseph material allegorically would also be appropriate. Discussions focused upon strategies of literary and cultural theory, gender and race theory, social theory, and other areas of critical theory are appropriate. I suspect the list will develop its own harmony, from the voices of its participants. While the list will be lightly moderated, the coordinator does not plan to sit on anyone's keyboard and frown. It is of course not acceptable to practice hate speech or preach speech. The list will not archive messages, as is the practice of some other scholarly lists. If there is a topic that interests a particular participant, s/he can make a personal archive file. it is hoped that the absence of an official archive will permit participants to speak freely and to explore new ideas. There is some hypertext experimentation in our future, if list members are interested. Suggestion about multimedia and other technological aids in teaching will be welcome. Syllabi concerned with technological or computer-assisted innovations in teaching might be shared.
Enkidu-l will evolve and follow the directions and interests of its participants. It is hoped that participants will not be lurkers, but fully engaged voices. Any questions or private concerns may be voiced to the coordinator: