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              Copyright (c) 1994, Landmark Communications, Inc.

DATE: Wednesday, September 7, 1994           TAG: 9409070572
SECTION: FRONT                    PAGE: A1   EDITION: FINAL 
SOURCE: BY GREG SCHNEIDER AND MARGARET EDDS, STAFF WRITERS 
                                             LENGTH: Short :   47 lines

ROBB DUMPS ON WIDOWS, ORPHANS - TRYING TO DRIVE HOME A POINT

Yes, the senator said what it sounded like he said.

Faced with a question during Tuesday's debate about what entitlements should be cut to reduce the federal deficit, Sen. Charles S. Robb came out with this line:

``I would take food from the mouths of widows and orphans if I had to try to solve this problem.''

Robb immediately acknowledged that it was a tough line.

``It's a stupid line, that's what it is,'' L. Douglas Wilder shot back.

``It's, it's the only, but, but, lemme, lemme, th-this is the reason we don't solve the problem,'' Robb stammered.

``You may want to elaborate on that, senator,'' moderator Judy Woodruff said.

``Obviously, I'm not being literal in that,'' Robb finally said. ``But we clearly, we clearly have to make tough choices, and we can't always duck when you ask somebody where they're going to cut.''

He had been frustrated, Robb said later, because his opponents weren't specific about cuts. Robb was trying to get across the point that every entitlement - Social Security, Medicaid, welfare - ought to be exposed to the budget ax.

But it didn't come out quite right.

``I frequently say that (line) in discussion with members of the Senate,'' Robb explained after the debate. ``They know I'm saying that in jest, but we've got to make tough choices.''

His opponents saw the humor, but for all the wrong reasons.

``I'm not sure he's got enough time left in his term to explain that one,'' J. Marshall Coleman said. ILLUSTRATION: Color photo

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Independent Senate candidate L. Douglas Wilder, left, independent J.

Marshall Coleman and Republican Oliver L. North listen to Democratic

Sen. Charles S. Robb in Tuesday's debate at Hampden-Sydney College.

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