The Virginian-Pilot
                            THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT  
              Copyright (c) 1995, Landmark Communications, Inc.

DATE: Sunday, November 26, 1995              TAG: 9511260182
SECTION: FRONT                    PAGE: A12  EDITION: FINAL 
SOURCE: STAFF REPORT 
DATELINE: VIRGINIA BEACH                     LENGTH: Medium:   52 lines

DISCUSSIONS: ``THEY'RE SPEAKING FROM THEIR HEARTS''

George Byrd didn't know what he was stumbling into.

Byrd, 66, is a retired Navy civil servant who stays busy with his church, local Republican politics, and hobbies such as genealogy.

One evening on a visit to the Virginia Beach Central Library for a meeting of the local genealogical society, he drifted across the hall and found a group of citizens deeply engrossed in a philosophical discussion of U.S. foreign policy.

After listening for a while, he was hooked.

He found the discussions fascinating, stimulating - and sometimes disturbing.

As it became clear the group was moving toward a consensus that the United States should place a high priority on international cooperation, he found himself in the minority.

What disturbed him was the notion that the United States might have to surrender some of its sovereignty - for instance, giving up the right to use military force abroad without U.N. approval.

``It's something I feel very strongly about, but I was surprised at how many people didn't feel that strongly,'' Byrd said later. ``I thought, `I can't believe this. These people are Americans. They're not ready to give up their sovereignty, I hope.' ''

But the give-and-take spurred him to do some re-examination of his ideas.

``Some of the people brought up some very good points, I thought. It's made me do some deeper thinking, and I sensed that other people were doing that, too.''

Despite great diversity of backgrounds and views, Byrd found a camaraderie and mutual respect in the group that amazed him.

``Nobody's getting angry,'' he said. ``They're speaking from their hearts, I believe. They mean what they're saying. But they do it in a nice way.''

``I think these people have given a lot of thought to what their beliefs are. If something like this was done all over the country, the politicians would probably get a better understanding of how people are feeling.'' ILLUSTRATION: Photo

George Byrd was in for a surprise

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CHOICES FOR THE 21ST CENTURY

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