VPIEJ-L 07/92
VPIEJ-L Discussion Archives
July 1992
========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1992 15:28:00 GMT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: "John R. Garrett" <0004716758@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: PSYC volume/issue numbering Dale raises several interesting issues in his post. I agree that paragraphs are a more stable identifier than screen pages, but are they deep enough in the text to be useful for search purposes? I'm concerned that if, this early, we accept criteria that don't serve users search needs, but are adequate bibliographic identifiers for citation purposes, we move toward multiple systems. Second, Dale is right that other media already have their own citation systems; I'm cochairing one of the IP groups for the Interactive Multimedia Association, and one of the real concerns is that, rather than having a multimedia identifier structure, multimedia will end up with collapsed, divergent systems drawn from each of the information components included -- print, film, video, sound, photography, etc. A nightmare - anybody got any good ideas? John Garrett ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1992 16:11:22 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA> Subject: Re: ISSN for electronic serials In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 30 Jun 1992 20:14:31 -0400 from <emv@msen.com> The following is a list a e-serials that have ISSN numbers - this information is from the revised edition (2.1) of the Directory of Electronic Journals and Newsletters. I have not yet released this edition yet as I am still waiting to hear from approx. a dozen new journals. I hope to have it on the Net within a week or so. PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME FOR INFORMATION REGARDING THE SERIALS LISTED BELOW. The revised directory *will* be out soon. I will shortly have a new listserv list on the Net that will announce new e-serials, and revised editions of the directory. (Do not ask me to subscribe you to this list yet - it will be announced soon). - Michael Strangelove ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> The Electronic Journal of Communication/La Revue Electronique de Communication (EJC/REC) <<< ISSN 1183-5656 >>> Flora Online <<< ISSN 0892-9106 >>> IOUDAIOS Review <<< ISSN 1183-9937 >>> Journal of Technology Education <<< ISSN 1045-1064 >>> MeckJournal <<< ISSN 1058-692X >>> Public-Access Computer Systems News <<< ISSN 1050-6004. >>> The Public-Access Computer Systems Review <<< ISSN 1048-6542. >>> Postmodern Culture <<< ISSN 1053-1920 >>> PSYCOLOQUY <<< ISSN 1044-0143 >>> RD Graduate Research in the Arts <<< ISSN 1188-0708 >>> SOLSTICE An Electronic Journal of Geography and Mathematics<<< ISSN 1059-5325 >>> ACQNET <<< ISSN 1057-5308 >>> BEN (Botanical Electronic News) <<< ISSN 1188-603X >>> Current Cites <<< ISSN 1060-2356 >>> Digital Games Review <<< ISSN 1059-5457. >>> Donosy <<< ISSN 0867-6860 >>> Ethnomusicology Research Digest <<< ISSN 1054-1624 >>> I.S.P.O.B. Bulletin YSSTI <<< ISSN 0353-9334 >>> Laboratory Primate Newsletter <<< ISSN 0023-6861 >>> MAB Northern Sciences Network Newsletter <<< ISSN 1014-7470 >>> Newsletter on Serials Pricing Issues <<< ISSN 1046-3410 >>> News of Earth <<< ISSN 1052-2239 >>> South Florida Environmental Reader <<< ISSN 1044-3479 >>> TEIRESIAS <<< ISSN 0381-9361 >>> ViewPoints <<< ISSN 1063-0325 And: QUANTA 1053-8496 ussr-d 1054-6510 ALCTS NETWORK NEWS 1056-6694 EFFECTOR ONLINE 1062-9424 RELIGIOUS STUDIES PUBLICATIONS JOURNAL - CONTENTS 1188-5734 EJOURNAL 1054-1053 Michael Strangelove Department of Religious Studies University of Ottawa BITNET: 441495@Uottawa Internet: 441495@Acadvm1.Uottawa.CA S-Mail: 177 Waller, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 CANADA Voice: (613) 237-2052 FAX: (613) 564-6641 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1992 18:59:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU From: Edward Vielmetti <emv@msen.com> Subject: Re: ISSN for electronic serials just a quick followup to my first posting - I've constructed an ISSN-based catalog of electronic serials in the gopher server on gopher.cic.net. The first pass has pointers or gopher "links" to e-journal collections at CMU, Michigan, U North Texas, the American Math Society, and the National Science Foundation. I havent' actually archived anything here yet, just made some links; credit is due to the primary archivists for keeping this up to date. In order to limit the size of the job :) I'm only making links to journals that have ISSN numbers. There are others out there, I know, but you have to start and stop somewhere. Current count is 13 serials in gopher from a list of 22 that I have on line. The idea of using gopher for serials goes back to the U of Minnesota, who started out by putting the _Minnesota Daily_ on line. There's a citation in the spring/summer 1992 _Serials Review_ from the MIT Electronic Journals Task Force, p122, which suggests just this approach. I'm announcing this server only on VPIEJ-L for now, to give people a chance to see how their own journal looks when it's been gopherized and to help flush out more details on other things that should get this treatment. More info on gopher can be had by anonymous FTP from boombox.micro.umn.edu:/pub/gopher/, or from the Usenet newsgroup alt.gopher. Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI 48103 +1 313 741 1120 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1992 21:37:45 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Editors of PMC <pmc@ncsuvm.bitnet> Subject: Re: PSYC volume/issue numbering In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 26 Jun 1992 13:04:29 DST from <koski@sbu.edu> Steve-- Screen numbering is not a good solution to the problem of citing e-journals: as more and more people move from PCs to workstations over the next few years, the 24-line PC screen is going to become an obsolete unit. Paragraph numbering is still the best solution, since pages and screens are unpredictable units, and paragraphs are fixed. John Unsworth Co-editor, _Postmodern Culture_ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1992 22:46:45 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Dennis Moser <aldus@aal.itd.umich.edu> In response to John Unsworth's comments taht paragraph numbering is the best solution to citing e-journals and that the 24-line PC screen is going to become obsolete -- I suspect that it will be more than a few years before those screens become obsolete. The Graduate Library here at UMICH has a small fortune tied up in just those types of machines. We should be looking at solutions to the citation problems that are less hardware dependent. I agree that the paragraphic approach makes the most sense of anything I have read here on line, but we need to keep in mind the economies of the end users. Dennis Moser "..and UMICH doesn't represent me, either!" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1992 22:45:57 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA> July 6, 1992 Announcing the Revised Directory of Electronic Journals and Newsletters * EDITION 2.1 - July 1992 * The revised edition of the Directory of Electronic Journals and Newsletters is now available on the Net. The Directory has been split into two files, EJOURNL1 DIRECTRY (2824 lines long) and EJOURNL2 DIRECTRY (4077 lines long). This revision documents over thirty new electronic serials that have appeared since the first edition, released one year ago. Presently, the Directory is available only in low ascii text via LISTSERV. Special thanks belong to Ann Okerson and the Association of Research Libraries for making this project (along with Diane Kovacs' Directory of Academic Discussion Lists and Interest Groups) the first copyrighted serial publication that is available both in hardcopy as well as being freely available on the Net in electronic text. And thanks all to the many individuals around the globe such as Peter Scott, Carl Briggs and Tony Barry who take the time to inform me of the appearance of new electronic serials. Michael Strangelove University of Ottawa >>> How To Retrieve This Directory From Networked Sources <<< The Directory is currently available in low ascii text from the following location: CONTENTS PROJECT Listserv Fileserver Send the following commands as an e-mail message to listserv@uottawa or listserv@acadvm1.uottawa.ca GET EJOURNL1 DIRECTRY GET EJOURNL2 DIRECTRY Please note the spelling carefully; - there is no "A" in "EJOURNL" and no "O" in "DIRECTRY" NB - The Directory of Electronic Journals and Newletters is not yet available via FTP. This project was made possible through funding from the Research Centre for the Study of Religion, Department of Religious Studies, University of Ottawa. For a hardcopy version of this Directory, contact: Office of Scientific & Academic Publishing Association of Research Libraries 1527 New Hampshire Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20036 USA ARLHQ@UMDC.Bitnet (202) 232-2466 (voice) (202) 462-7849 (fax) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> TABLE OF CONTENTS <<< [THE FOLLOWING IS IN THE FILE EJOURNL1 DIRECTRY] >>> Section 1: Information <<< Introduction How to Retrieve This Directory From Networked Sources Networked Resources for Electronic Publication Electronic Serials and Related Topics: A Brief Bibliography How to Submit an Entry to the Directory Getting an ISSN for an Electronic Journal How to Start an E-Newsletter PACS-L Review Special Issue on Networked Based E-Serials Changes to the Second Edition >>> Section 2: Electronic Journals <<< Inactive Electronic Journals Active Journals: $ indicates subscription is not free ** indicates journal is peer reviewed Subject area is indicated (when necessary) within square brakets [ ] Art Com [Contemporary art and new communication technologies] ArtsNet Review [Contemporary cross-cultural, arts and electronic networking issues] Bryn Mawr Classical Review ** CATALYST: The Community Services Catalyst [Community college educators] CORE [A literary journal for short fiction, poetry, and essays] DargonZine [Dargon Project fiction anthology] The Distance Education Online Symposium ** EJournal [Implications of electronic documents and networks] The Electronic Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic ** Electronic Journal of Communication/La Revue Electronique de Communication (EJC/REC) [Communication theory, research, practice, and policy] Fineart Forum [Application of science and technology to the contemporary arts and music] ** Flora Online [Systematic botany] Intertext [An electronic fiction digest] IOUDAIOS Review [Reviews in Early Judaism and Christian origins] Issues In Science and Technology Librarianship $ ** Journal of the International Academy of Hospitality Research Journal of Technology Education LIBRES (Library and Information Science Research Electronic Conference) MeckJournal [A monthly from Meckler Publishing] ** New Horizons in Adult Education NetWeaver Offline [Computers in religious studies] Online Chronicle of Distance Education and Communication The Public-Access Computer Systems News ** The Public-Access Computer Systems Review Pigulki [News and humor relating to Poland and Polish issues] ** Postmodern Culture ** PSYCOLOQUY Quanta [Science fiction and fantasy] ** RD: Graduate Research in the Arts The Religious Studies Publications Journal - CONTENTS Socjety Journal [Alumni journal of the Technical University of Wroclaw, Poland] SOLSTICE: An Electronic Journal of Geography and Mathematics TeXMaG (TeX Typesetting System) TeX Publication Distribution List Textual Studies in Canada [THE FOLLOWING IS IN THE FILE EJOURNL2 DIRECTRY] >>> Section 3: Electronic Newsletters <<< Access ACQNET (The Acquisitions Librarians Electronic Network) ALCTS Network News (AN2 - The Association of Library Collections and Technical Services) American Psychological Association's Research Funding Bulletin Arts Wire News Automatome BEN (Botanical Electronic News) Between the Lines Buffer CANOPUS Magazine CCNEWS CERFNet News ChE Electronic Newsletter (Chemical Engineering) Christian Growth Newsletter Class Four Relay Magazine Computer Science Center Link Computing and Telecommunications Newsletter Computists' Communique Consortium Update Cosmic Update CPSR/PDX Newsletter (Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility) CRTNet - Communication Research and Theory Current Cites DDN MANAGEMENT BULLETIN DECNEWS for Education and Research DevelopNet News Deutschland Nachrichten Digit Digital Games Review Disaster Research Donosy Drosophila Information Newsletter EFFector Online (The Electronic Frontier Foundation, Inc.) Electronic AIR Electronic Hebrew Users Newsletter Energy and Climate Information and Exchange (ECIX) Newsletter and Digest Energy Research in Israel Newsletter Erofile Ethnomusicology Research Digest Fine Art, Science and Technology News (F.A.S.T. News) FARNET Gazette GLOSAS News (GLObal Systems Analysis and Simulating Association) GNU's Bulletin (Newsletter of the Free Software Foundation) HICNet Newsletter (Mednews - Health Infocom Newsletter History and Analysis of Disabilities Newsletter Hot Off the Tree (HOTT) Impact Online International Voice Newsletter Prototype List IS P.O.B. Bulletin YSSTI (Yugoslav System for Scientific and Technology Information) Laboratory Primate Newsletter Law and Politics Book Review Leonardo Electronic News Link Letter List Review Service MAB Northern Sciences Network Newsletter Machine Readable Texts News Material Science in Israel Newsletter MichNet News MICnews NEARnet Newsletter Network Audio Bits and Audio Software Review NetMonth Net-News Newsbrief Newsletter on Serials Pricing Issues Newsline (Comserve) News of Earth NIBNews - A Monthly Electronic Bulletin About Medical Informatics NLSNews Newsletter Old English Computer-Assisted Language Learning Newsletter (OE-CALL) Output Political Analysis and Research Cooperation (PARC) News Bulletin Principia Cybernetica Newsletter Prompt The Purple Thunderbolt of Spode (PURPS) Research and Educational Applications of Computers in Humanities (REACH) Rezo, bulletin irregulomadaire du RQSS $ St. Petersburg Business News SCUP Bitnet News (Society for College and University Planners) SCUPMA-L (Society of College and University Planners, Mid-Atlantic Region) Sense of Place South Florida Environmental Reader $ The Teleputing Hotline And Field Computing Source Letter Teiresias THINKNET (Electronic newsletter on philosophy, systems theory, interdisciplinary studies, and thoughtful conversation in cyberspace) TitNeT -- Titnews -- Titnotes VapourWare ViewPoints (Newsletter of the Visual Communication Division of the Association for Educators in Journalism and Mass Communication [AEJMC]) The Week in Germany >>> Section 4: Hypercard Stacks, Digest-Newsletters and Others <<< Chile News Database China News Digest Comp.Archives Desktop Publishing Digest Electronic College of Theory The Handicap Digest Instant Math Preprints (IMP) IRList (Information Retrieval List Digest) Risks-Forum Digest Simulation Digest Simulations Online TidBITS ============================================================================= Contributions and corrections to this directory should be sent to Michael Strangelove (441495@Acadvm1.UOttawa.CA) and MUST be in the following format (use as much space as necessary): TITLE: ISSN: (if any) Description: To Subscribe: (via Bitnet and Internet) Submissions: (whom to sent submissions to and in what form) Related List: (how to subscribe to a related list, if any) Periodicity: Back Issues: (how to access them) Contact: (for more information) =========================================================================== Michael Strangelove Department of Religious Studies University of Ottawa BITNET: 441495@Uottawa Internet: 441495@Acadvm1.Uottawa.CA S-Mail: 177 Waller, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 CANADA Voice: (613) 237-2052 FAX: (613) 564-6641 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1992 09:36:31 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: James Powell <jpowell@vtvm1.bitnet> Subject: Framemaker/SGML Infoworld, June 29, 1992 excerpt from "Frame adds Verity text retrieval to viewing software" by Jeanette Borzo In a meeting last week, Frame officials said the company is also working on a product solution for standard generalized markup language (SGML). SGML is an emerging standard that frees corporations from having to commit to a particular software application for long document publishing and also allows documentation to be reused within a corporation. Frame said it will offer SGML authoring, importing, and exporting capabilities. Frame Technology, in San Jose, California, can be reached at (408) 433-3311. James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU O+> >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 10:03:00 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: David Tyckoson <dt673@albnyvms.bitnet> Subject: Electronic Journal Policies Wanted This message is cross-posted to LIBADMIN and PACS-L WANTED: LIBRARY POLICIES ON ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC JOURNALS We are working on a project for Meckler Publishing, entitled Access to Electronic Journals in Libraries: Policy Issues and Case Studies. As part of this work, we are soliciting existing library policies on accessing e-journals. We would like to reproduce these policies in the Case Studies section of the book, along with annotations explaining the decision- making process used to arrive at the policy. Notes on policy changes or effectiveness would also be appropriate. Libraries that send policies will be acknowledged in the book as will the annotators of the policies. Please send policies and/or questions to: Dave Tyckoson, DT673@albnyvms Dennis Benamati, DB851@albnyvms University Libraries University at Albany S.U.N.Y. 1400 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12222 518-442-3559 518-442-3567 (FAX) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 16:03:55 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA> I am in the middle of converting some network documents to postscript and need to test the files at remote sites. I have placed to files on a FTP server, those who care to can retrieve these files and send them to a mainframe printer and let me know if they do or do not print. The document was created under wordperfect, saved to disk as a postscript file and placed on a server. They do print in fine form at my site on an IMAGEN printer. FTP 137.122.6.16 cd pub/religion login as anonymous get mystics-guide-part1-test.ps (824,580 bytes - approx 30 pages) get mystics-guide-test2.ps (312,903 bytes - 13 pages) These files are the first 30 and the first ten pages from the draft #6 of the Electric Mystic's Guide to the Internet: A Complete Bibliography of Networked Electronic Documents Relevant to Religious Studies. Please note that neither file is a completed document. Can anyone tell me what is the maximum size for a networked postscript file. Do most nodes/sites have the ability to print a postscript file? NB - Please do not forward this posting to other lists. Michael Strangelove Department of Religious Studies University of Ottawa BITNET: 441495@Uottawa Internet: 441495@Acadvm1.Uottawa.CA S-Mail: 177 Waller, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 CANADA Voice: (613) 237-2052 FAX: (613) 564-6641 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 21:09:55 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: James Powell <jpowell@vtvm1.bitnet> Subject: Volunteers wanted I've just posted an electronic issue of The International Journal of Experimental Analytical and Experimental Modal Analysis. This is a trial issue that I am announcing only to VPIEJ-L. I would like a few volunteers to take a look at an article or two and see what you can do with it. Then respond to the questions listed below. Please be aware that these files are TIFF page images and will require a large amount of storage space. For more information, retrieve the READ.ME file first in the journal directory: ftp borg.lib.vt.edu (128.173.7.185) ---- NOT 8AM-5PM EDT Mon-Fri PLEASE!!! login: anonymous cd /pub/IJAEMA/v7n2 Use binary mode for .ZIP transfers. Questions: 1. What type of computer do you have? 2. Are you directly connected to the Internet? 3. Were you able to view the images on your computer screen? 4. If not, what do you think was the problem? 5. Were you able to print the images or the single page PostScript file included in the journal directory? 6. Which would you prefer - TIFF image files or PostScript files containing the bitmap image? 7. In your opinion, would this be a useful format to you? 8. Optional: Do you think your library could provide these files to patrons? Send responses to: jpowell@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu James Powell Thanks. James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU O+> >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1992 15:35:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU From: newsmgr@IRIS-DCP.ES Subject: Re: Authentication of ejournals/ X-Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site iris-dcp.es X-Date: 24 Jun 92 21:36:15 GMT X-Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving,and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> X-Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU XX-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] XX-To: VPIEJ-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU X-In-Reply-To: <9206241549.AA24491@condor.CC.UMontreal.CA>; from "Raleigh C.Muns" at Jun 24, 92 10:39 am Lines: 50 > > Having taken a course in analytical bibliography within the last couple > of years, I find that the problem of authentication of e-journals (i.e., > which "version" does one have) is little different from the problems > of authenticating versions of print items. I spent two weeks looking > at different versions of Papal Canones and the best I could do was > support various contentions as to the degree of authenticity of the > item. > > The major difference is one of magnitude. With e-publishing, practically > anyone can download, modify, and republish a new version of an item, > therefore the probability (and problems) of different versions increase. > Also, there are less cues (e.g., water marks on the paper, font of type) > to support analysis in the electronic version. > > As in print forms, the controlling structures of the publishing industry > as well as conventions adopted by individual publishers (fraud aside) > can be used to aid in authenticattion of an "edition" of an item. ISSN's > for e-journals can aid in this process. Likewise, depositories which > contain "originals" such as the Library of Congress can also verify > authenticity or version or edition or printing of an item. > > I say with affection that the process of analytical bibliography is the > most anally retentive activity of an anal retentive profession (librarian- > ship) and am pleased that such a fascinating activity has a role in the > electronic forums of the future (scratch that!) present. > > > Raleigh C. Muns / Reference Librarian / Univ. of MO, St. Louis > > BITNET: SRCMUNS@UMSLVMA > In our project Surfaces - a research service on cultural studies, we have looked into two questions: integrity of texts published and possibility of having succeeding versions of the same article. With regard to the latter question, we believe that each modification to a given article should undergo a refereeing process similar to the one used with the first submission, only lighter (only one referee for example). As for integrity of texts, the Macintosh text kept at our ftp site (harfang.cc.umontreal.ca) is the standard reference. Now, in the next few months, we hope to encode our texts with an algorithm that will allow for quick, on the spot checking without having to go back to the site and do a clean download if the text did not reach you directly in the first place. This may not be as good as water marks, but this is the best we can think of for the moment. Jean-Claude Guedon co-editor Surfaces guedon@ere.umontreal.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1992 12:58:56 PDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: homo obsolescensis <whenry@netcom.com> Subject: Re: Authentication of ejournals/ There was a fascinating presentation at the recent preconference of the Rare Books and Manuscript Section of the American Library Association, in which Peter Graham (who is on this list and will, I hope, correct me if I misrepresent his talk ) outlined an interesting scheme developed at Bellcore for authentification and time stamping of machine readable documents. The scheme involved the local machine calculating a hash value for a document and submitting it to a time-stamp server. The server returns a unique key ("certificate") based upon (a) the provided hash value (b) the sequence of previous keys (c) the time/date. This key is deemed to be unforgeable (ie in combination with the original document hash value, it authenticates both the content of the document and its date stamp). Now one of the cool features of the scheme is that it can survive the obsolescence of the server, or even of the network: At regular time intervals a cumulative hash value that makes use of all the "certificate" stamps during that time period, are published/archived in hard copy. The example given was for the value to be published in the Public and Commercial Notices of the Sunday NY Times. Then a scholar in say the 24th Century, faced with a given document can apply the same hashing routine to the document, and use that and the pututave certificate and should be able to verify them against the published cumulative hash in the Times (in whatever bizarre form may be available at that time). I am hoping to find more information on the scheme and would be happy to summarize, if I find anything. Peter Graham distributed a copy of an article describing the process, [NYT 1/12/92] and an example of the archival publication in the Notices. This sort of thing is discussed in sci.crypt, btw. Walter Henry Assistant Conservator Stanford University Libraries ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1992 23:56:00 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: "Peter Graham, Rutgers U., (908) 932-2741" <graham@zodiac.bitnet> Subject: Re: Authentication of ejournals/ Could M. Guedon be more discursive on the subject of authenticating texts by means of an algorithm? I have recently been writing and presenting on this topic--what I call "intellectual preservation" as opposed to (and collaborative with) artifactual preservation--and have been interested in the potential use of an algorithm developed at Bell labs, known as a "time-stamping" algorithm (Haber and Stornetta). Some such form will be of use; it will require common and freely available authentication and validation procedures, and publicly-known labels (or numbers or "hashes") which could be used in bibliographic references. If there is interest here I could develop this. Meanwhile I'd like to hear more of what M. Guedon and *Surfaces* intend to do. --Peter Graham Rutgers University ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 17:15:00 CDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: "SCIENCE CATALOGING UNIT 319-335-5889" <cadscuts@uiamvs.bitnet> Subject: SGML/CAI Can any subscribers refer me to a source for computer-assisted instruction in SGML? I am new to this list, so my apologies to you all if this topic has already been discussed. Thanks, David Lepse cadscuts@uiamvs.bitnet david-lepse@uiowa.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 01:21:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU From: Edward Vielmetti <emv@msen.com> Subject: Re: SGML/CAI There is an active SGML usenet newsgroup (comp.text.sgml); you should also be able to pick up a copy of the "frequently asked questions" positng from that list and a pointer to the various archives from rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/comp.text.sgml/ as much as anything will get you started that should be a help. --Ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:24:04 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: herring@LTPSUN.GSFC.NASA.GOV Subject: Font readability Fellow Networkers: Greetings! I am a new subscriber to the network and I look forward to swapping bits with y'all. But for now I have a question for the community at large: Is there a report or publication in which different typefaces are compared/contrasted for a number of categories, including readability? Two years ago I held such a report and now I cannot remember the agency that published it. I do remember, however, that the report was directed toward the news media. If anyone can give me the name of the report, or the agency that publishes it, I would be most appreciative. Thank you. David D. Herring MODIS Administrative Support 286-9515 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:03:40 +0100 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Michel Eytan LILoL <me@suzuka.u-strasbg.fr> Subject: lyrical illusion (was Re: Font readability) ----- Begin Included Message ----- Fellow Networkers: Greetings! I am a new subscriber to the network and I look forward to swapping bits with y'all. But for now I have a question for the community at large: Is there a report or publication in which different typefaces are compared/contrasted for a number of categories, including readability? Two years ago I held such a report and now I cannot remember the agency that published it. I do remember, however, that the report was directed toward the news media. If anyone can give me the name of the report, or the agency that publishes it, I would be most appreciative. Thank you. David D. Herring MODIS Administrative Support 286-9515 ----- End Included Message ----- David, I am probably alone of my kind, but it seems to me preposterous to posit a *uniform* criterion of readability across all individuals. Personally, I like Palatino best, with Bookman a close second. I know many people who like Courier and Geneva -- that I cannot be brought to read. -- Michel Eytan eytan@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr Labo. Info., Log., Lang. T: +33 88 41 74 29 Univ. Strasbourg II F: +33 88 41 74 40 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:50:59 ADT Reply-To: dgm@unb.ca Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: "David G. Macneil" <dgm@jupiter.csd.unb.ca> Subject: Re: Font readability Return-Path: <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> Received: from VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU by jupiter.Sun.CSD.unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10295; Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:28:11 ADT Message-Id: <9207231328.AA10295@jupiter.Sun.CSD.unb.ca> Received: from vtvm1.cc.vt.edu by VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5361; Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:23:53 EDT Received: from VTVM1.BITNET by vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Mailer R2.08 R208002) with BSMTP id 2147; Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:23:52 EDT Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:24:04 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: herring@LTPSUN.GSFC.NASA.GOV Subject: Font readability X-To: e-doc net & arch <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list VPIEJ-L <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> Fellow Networkers: Greetings! I am a new subscriber to the network and I look forward to swapping bits with y'all. But for now I have a question for the community at large: Is there a report or publication in which different typefaces are compared/contrasted for a number of categories, including readability? Two years ago I held such a report and now I cannot remember the agency that published it. I do remember, however, that the report was directed toward the news media. If anyone can give me the name of the report, or the agency that publishes it, I would be most appreciative. Thank you. David D. Herring MODIS Administrative Support 286-9515 Dave === David G Macneil, Director, Computing Services === === University of New Brunswick, === === Fredericton, New Brunswick, CANADA, E3B 5A3 === === === === NetNorth/BITNET: DGM @ UNB Voice: (506) 453-4573 === === Internet: DGM @ UNB.CA Fax: (506) 453-3590 === ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:18:46 PDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: homo obsolescensis <whenry@netcom.com> Subject: Font readability >Is there a report or publication in which different typefaces >are compared/contrasted for a number of categories, including readability? Books / Search: Find SUBJECT LEGIBILITY Result: 15 citations Citation 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Arps, Ronald Barthold. TITLE: Entropy of printed matter at the threshold of legibility for efficient coding in digital image-processing. Digital image-processing. IMPRINT: 1969. ix, 107 p. LOCATION: Engineering 3781 1969 .A (Library has c.1; c.2) TOPICS: Pattern perception. Optical data processing. NOTES: Thesis (Ph.D.)--Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University. Bibliography: p. 105-107. Language: English Year: 1969 Item CSUGALA7996-B (Books) ALA7996 (NOTIS) Citation 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Zachrisson, Bror. TITLE: Studies in the legibility of printed text. The legibility of printed text. IMPRINT: Uppsala, Almqvist & Wiksell [1965] 225 p. illus. LOCATION: Green Library Stacks Z250.A4Z3 TOPICS: Type and type-founding Printing NOTES: Akademisk avhandling--Stockholm. Includes bibliography. Language: English Year: 1965 Item CSUGALA9341-B (Books) ALA9341 (NOTIS) Citation 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Goudy, Frederic William, 1865- TITLE: Typologia; studies in type design & type making, with comments on the invention of typography, the first types, legibility, and fine printing [by] Frederic W. Goudy ... IMPRINT: Berkeley and Los Angeles, University of California press, 1940. xviii p., 1 l., 170 p., 1 l. incl. front., illus. (incl. facsims.) plates, ports., typog. specimens. 28 cm. LOCATION: Spec Coll Gunst Z239.V71 Z8 T9 TOPICS: Type and type-founding. Printing--History. Printing--Specimens. California. University. Press. NOTES: "This edition of Typologia, is set in University of California old style types, designed by Frederic W. Goudy for the exclusive use of the University of California press and here used for the first time. The book has been arranged by Mr. Goudy in collaboration with Samuel T. Farquhar, manager of the press, and printed at the press in August, 1940." Language: English Year: 1940 Item CSUGAKX0916-B (Books) AKX0916 (NOTIS) Citation 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: United States. National Bureau of Standards. TITLE: Legibility of alphanumeric characters and other symbols. IMPRINT: Washington, For sale by the Superintendent of Documents. U.s. Govt. Print. Off., 1964- v. LOCATION: Physics 530.2.S257 ed.5 SERIES: Its Miscellaneous publication 262-1 TOPICS: Legibility (Printing)--Bibliography. Pattern perception--Bibliography. NOTES: U.S. Supt. of Docs. No. C 13.10:262-1 Language: English Year: 1964 Item CSUGAKS6679-B (Books) AKS6679 (NOTIS) Citation 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Tinker, Miles Albert, 1893- TITLE: An experimental study of legibility, perception, and eye movement in the reading of formulae ... By Miles Albert Tinker. June 1927. IMPRINT: [1927] 3 p. l., iii, 255 numb. l. incl. mounted illus., XVI pl., form, tables. 28 cm. LOCATION: Green Library Stacks 153.61.T589 (Library has c.1; c.2) TOPICS: Reading, Psychology of. Eye--Movements. NOTES: Thesis (Ph.D.) - Leland Stanford Junior University, 1927. Type-written. Bibliography: l. 242-255. Language: English Year: 1927 Item CSUGAKA6978-B (Books) AKA6978 (NOTIS) Citation 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Goudy, Frederic W. (Frederic William), 1865-1947. TITLE: Typologia : studies in type design & type making, with comments on the invention of typography, the first types, legibility, and fine printing / Frederic W. Goudy. IMPRINT: Berkeley : University of California Press, 1940. xviii, 170 p. : ill. facsims., ports. ; 27 cm. LOCATION: Green Library Stacks Z250A2.G6 TOPICS: Type and type-founding--California--History. Printing--California--History. Legibility (Printing) Printing--Specimens. NOTES: Language: English Year: 1940 Item CSUGADK9797-B (Books) ADK9797 (NOTIS) Citation 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Tinker, Miles Albert, 1893- TITLE: Legibility of print. IMPRINT: Ames, Iowa State University Press [c1963] ix, 329 p. illus., tables. 22 cm. LOCATION: Green Library Stacks 094.24.T589 TOPICS: Legibility (Printing) Type and type-founding. NOTES: Bibliography: p. 267-322. Language: English Year: 1963 Item CSUGADK4560-B (Books) ADK4560 (NOTIS) Citation 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Pyke, Richard Lionel, 1899- TITLE: Report on the legibility of print, by R. L. Pyke, M. A. IMPRINT: London, H. M. Stationery Off. [printed by Johnson, at the University Press, Oxford] 1926. 123 p. incl. tables, diagr. pl. 24 cm. LOCATION: Green Library Stacks 610.6.M489 no.110 SERIES: Medical Research Council (Great Britain). Special report series no. 110 TOPICS: Type and type-founding. Printing. Reading. Printing Reading NOTES: At head of title: Privy Council. Medical Research Council. "Glossary to typographical and other terms used in this report": p. 117. Bibliography: p. [118]-123. Language: English Year: 1926 Item CSUGAAH8764-B (Books) AAH8764 (NOTIS) Citation 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Goudy, Frederic W. (Frederic William), 1865-1947. TITLE: Typologia : studies in type design & type making, with comments on the invention of typography, the first types, legibility, and fine printing / Frederic W. Goudy. IMPRINT: Berkeley : University of California Press, 1940. xviii, 170 p. : ill. facsims., ports. ; 27 cm. LOCATION: Item CSUG87-B93739 not yet cataloged; consult Special Collections TOPICS: Type and type-founding--California--History. Printing, Practical--California--History. Printing--Specimens. NOTES: Language: English Year: 1940 Item CSUG87-B93739 (Books) ABB1821 (NOTIS) Citation 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Rehe, Rolf F., 1935- TITLE: Typography : how to make it most legible / Rolf F. Rehe. IMPRINT: 4th rev. ed. Carmel, Ind. (P.O. Box 27, Carmel 46032) : Design Research International, 1981, c1974. 80 p. : ill. ; 21 cm. LOCATION: Green Library Stacks Z250.A4R43 1981 TOPICS: Legibility (Printing) Letter spacing. Type-setting. Printing, Practical--Make-up. NOTES: Bibliography: p. 65-78. Includes index. Language: English Year: 1974,1981 Item CSUG87-B43216 (Books) AHR1057 (NOTIS) Citation 11 ------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Mergenthaler Linotype Company. TITLE: The legibility of type. IMPRINT: Brooklyn, N.Y. [c1935] 67,[1] p. illus. 18cm. LOCATION: Spec Coll Rare Books Ref Z250.A4.M5 TOPICS: Type and type-founding. NOTES: Ex libris Edward De Witt Taylor. Language: English Year: Item CSUG907049-B (Books) AGL7766 (NOTIS) Citation 12 ------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Legros, Lucien Alphonse, 1865- TITLE: A note on the legibility of printed matter; prepared for the information of the Committee on type faces ... IMPRINT: London, H. M. Stationery Office, 1922. 1 p.l., 18 p. 33 cm. LOCATION: Spec Coll Rare Books Ref Z250.L52 f OTHER: Great Britain. Committee on type faces. TOPICS: Type and type-founding. Reading. Printing. NOTES: Language: English Year: Item CSUG2873575-B (Books) AEH6049 (NOTIS) Citation 13 ------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Watts, Lynne. TITLE: Legibility in children's books; a review of research [by] Lynne Watts and John Nisbet. IMPRINT: Windsor, NFER [1974] 104 p. illus.(some col.) 22cm. LOCATION: Education Z246.W37 OTHER: Nisbet, John Donald, joint author. TOPICS: Printing, Practical--Style manuals. Children's literature--Publishing. Books and reading for children. NOTES: Distributed in the USA by Humanities Press, New York. Bibliography: p. [100]-104. Language: English Year: Item CSUG2015595-B (Books) AEA5100 (NOTIS) Citation 14 ------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Ryder, John, 1917- TITLE: The case for legibility / John Ryder. IMPRINT: New York : Moretus Press, 1979. 77, [1] p. : ill. ; 20 cm. LOCATION: Spec Coll Rare Books Ref Z116.A3.R96 TOPICS: Book design--Addresses, essays, lectures. Printing--Addresses, essays, lectures. NOTES: Language: English Year: 1979 Item CSUG14504391-B (Books) ADW0140 (NOTIS) Citation 15 ------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: Ryder, John, 1917- TITLE: The case for legibility / John Ryder. IMPRINT: London : Bodley Head, 1979. 77 p. : ill. ; 20 cm. LOCATION: Item CSUG12175820-B not yet cataloged; consult Special Collections TOPICS: Book design--Addresses, essays, lectures. Printing--Addresses, essays, lectures. NOTES: Language: English Year: 1979 Item CSUG12175820-B (Books) AAS8260 (NOTIS) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:44:56 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: James Powell <jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu> Subject: IJAEMA ps PART II I've just posted a PostScript version of the first electronic issue of The International Journal of Experimental Analytical and Experimental Modal Analysis. This is a trial issue that I am announcing only to VPIEJ-L. I would like a few volunteers to take a look at an article or two and see what you can do with it. Then respond to the questions listed below. Please be aware that these files are unix compressed PostScript page images and will require a large amount of storage space when extracted. ftp borg.lib.vt.edu (128.173.7.185) ---- NOT 8AM-5PM EDT Mon-Fri PLEASE!!! login: anonymous cd /pub/IJAEMA/postscript/v7n2 Use binary mode for .Z transfers. UNIX tools for DOS including tar, compress are available on borg in the tools directory. Questions: 1. What type of computer do you have? 2. Are you directly connected to the Internet? 3. Were you able to view the images on your computer screen? 4. If not, what do you think was the problem? 5. Were you able to print the images or the single page PostScript file included in the journal directory? 6. Which would you prefer - TIFF image files or PostScript files containing the bitmap image? 7. In your opinion, would this be a useful format to you? 8. Optional: Do you think your library could provide these files to patrons? Send responses to: jpowell@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu James Powell Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:57:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: jaffe@UCSCM.UCSC.EDU I am on vacation until August 10. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:48:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU From: Edward Vielmetti <emv@msen.com> Subject: ISSN numbers for e-journals This is a list of e journals and their ISSN numbers. It is posted to VPIEJ-L periodically as updates warrant. Additions should be sent to "emv@cic.net". The format used follows the extended "refer" scheme provided by the Human-Computer Interaction bibliography, Gary Perlman, editor. Further information about it can be had from archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:/pub/hcibib. The list differs from other collections of electronic journals in that it notes only journals that have ISSN numbers, and that it seeks to identify exact references to interactive on-line archives of machine-readable back issues. This should prove useful in building servers (a la the HYTELNET index for library catalogs) that can use these materials directly. I have not yet filled in all of the information that I have about all of these, so consider this less than a complete effort. This work is part of a CICnet project on access and archives for electronic serials. Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI 48103 +1 313 741 1120 "We believe in: rough concensus and working code." 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Up to five remote logins may use this ftp site 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Please try it out! The ftp address is: borg.lib.vt.edu Problems, comments to jpowell@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu or jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu. James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU O+> >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:50:01 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: John Price-Wilkin <jpw@poe.acc.virginia.edu> Subject: Re: Internet archives In-Reply-To: <9207281820.AB50164@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU>; from "James Powell" at Jul 28, 92 1:50 pm > > The vpiej-l Internet archive site is now running an experimental ftp program I just joined vpiej-l. Thanks. (Yesterday's posting -- the one you forwarded -- was very interesting.) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:27:00 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: BRIAN KAHIN <kahin@hulaw1.bitnet> Subject: Scholarly Communication Project: computer conferences announced Project on Scholarly Communication in the Network Environment Announcement of Computer Conferences The Science, Technology and Public Policy Program at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government and the Coalition for Networked Information have undertaken a project to address principles, policy, and practice related to new forms of scholarly communication in the network environment. Funded in part by the National Science Foundation's Program on Ethics and Values Studies in Science and Technology, the Project looks at a set of social, ethical, and legal issues raised in the communication and dissemination of research results. The goal is to help different groups ranging from research teams to academic and professional societies develop appropriate policies and practices. A draft background paper has been prepared by project director Brian Kahin and is available on the Internet by anonymous ftp from ftp.cni.org using the following sequence of commands: ftp ftp.cni.org login anonymous [send e-mail address as password] cd /CNI/projects/Harvard.scp get background.txt exit We are now ready to initiate a set of computer conferences which will bring together diverse disciplinary and service perspectives. The conferences will address six issue areas which are discussed sequentially in the background paper: 1.) JOINT AUTHORSHIP AND OWNERSHIP -- How should jointly authored research be structured and how should publication processes be handled? list name: OWNERSHIP moderator: Michael Strait (mstrait@linknet.com) 2.) RIGHTS IN COMPUTER CONFERENCING -- What are reasonable expectations for the handling and reuse of messages and other material posted to groups and mailing lists? list name: REPOST moderators: Edward Vielmetti (emv@msen.com) Steve Cisler (sac@apple.com) 3.) DERIVATIVE AND ITERATIVE WORKS -- What practices should apply to sequenced and variant publications of the same and related work? list name: DERIV moderators: Ann Okerson (okerson@umdc.bitnet) Steven Zink (stevenz@equinox.unr.edu) 4.) CONTROL OF DISSEMINATION -- To what extent should key scholarly resources be controlled by particular scholars or organizations? list name: RESOURCES moderator: Doug Greenberg (sdgls@cunyvm.bitnet) 5.) SITE LICENSING -- How will widespread site licensing affect access to information by unaffiliated individuals and small firms and organizations? list name: SITE-LICENSE moderators: John Garrett (jgarrett@nri.reston.va.us) Steve Gilbert (gilbert@educom.edu) 6.) INTERNATIONAL ACCESS -- How should researchers and practitioners in the developing world be assured access to research results? list name: INTERNATIONAL moderator: Art St. George (stgeorge@bootes.unm.edu) Persons interested in participating in one of these conferences should send a single line mail message to LISTSERV@CNI.ORG as follows: subscribe [name of list] [your first name] [your last name] If you wish to participate in more than one conference, put each request on a separate line in the same format. Please also send the moderators background information so they will know who is participating. The moderators will set their own policies and some may choose limit the size of their conference. We plan to report on these conferences at the November meeting of the Coalition for Networked Information Task Force. There will be an invitational workshop for the most active participants and representative academic organizations in Washington in early 1993. A final report is due in the Spring. For additional information, contact the list moderators at the listed email addresses. Or: Brian Kahin Director, Information Infrastructure Project Science, Technology and Public Policy Program John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University 79 John F. Kennedy St. Cambridge, MA 02138 617-495-8903 Fax: 617-495-5776 kahin@hulaw1.harvard.edu Paul Peters Director Coalition for Networked Information 1527 New Hampshire Ave., NW Washington DC 20036 202-232-2466 Fax: 202-462-7849 paul@cni.org For technical assistance: Craig A. Summerhill, Systems Coordinator Coalition for Networked Information 1527 New Hampshire Ave., N.W. Washington, DC 20036 craig@cni.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:57:24 EST Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: "A. Ralph Papakhian" <papakhi@iubvm.bitnet> Subject: Re: Internet archives In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:50:12 EDT from <jpowell@vtvm1> On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:50:12 EDT James Powell said: >The vpiej-l Internet archive site is now running an experimental ftp program >that presents messages to users when they enter certain directories and will >provide other features when fully functional. Up to five remote logins may >use this ftp site 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Please try it out! > >The ftp address is: >borg.lib.vt.edu > >Problems, comments to jpowell@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu or jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu. > >James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU > >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU O+> > >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here > >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Hi. borg.lib.vt.edu is "unknown" from this end. Is that a problem here or there? Most cordially, A. Ralph Papakhian, Music Library (Co-Listowner for MLA-L@IUBVM) Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-2970 papakhi@iubvm.bitnet papakhi@iubvm.ucs.indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:53:46 +0000 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: N.POPPELIER@ELSEVIER.NL Subject: Re: Internet archives In-Reply-To: <"4420 Fri Jul 31 06:04:34 1992"@relay.surfnet.nl> I just tried ftp'ing to borg.lib.vt.edu (Fri Jul 31 09:51:24 WET DST 1992) and it worked. The ftp server is not special in some sense, whereas I thought it would give messages with every command. Nico ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Nico A.F.M. Poppelier Elsevier Science Publishers, Information Technology Development Sara Burgerhartstraat 25, 1055 KV Amsterdam, The Netherlands Phone: +31-20-5862504. Fax: +31-20-5862425. Email: n.poppelier@elsevier.nl ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:36:56 U Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Kimberly Parker <kimberly_parker@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu> Subject: Copyright concerns REGARDING Copyright concerns Recently, we in our library have been having discussions regarding copyright/other concerns for electronic journals which charge subscriptions (I suppose some of it would apply to "free" e-journals, too. Anyway, the substance of the discussion revolves around what a publisher would consider a good-faith effort to prevent a library user from accessing a journal on a library "subscription", and downloading the data and "redistributing" it among their colleagues, lab group, or international community peers. Things that have been discussed are forcing each user of electronic journals from a library subscription to stare at a copyright screen in which they "sign their life away" by acknowledging by hitting return, or some such thing. (An assumed here is that there would be a blockade in place to prevent non-institution people from signing on/in). I suppose if the publishers really want to prevent this type of thing, it is up to them to encode their data, but that really seems to limit the usefulness of e-journals. So, now on to the group. What are the opinions of the publishers out there? Other information user groups? --Kimberly Parker Yale Science Libraries ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:21:50 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@princeton.edu> Subject: Let's rethink copyright policy in the electronic medium For both "free" and paid-subscription electronic journals, copyright policy will have to be re-thought. Publishers of electronic journals will of course have to cover their real expenses, otherwise electronic publishing will not get very far, but those expenses may be so much lower than paper publishing that the appropriate economic model may no longer be that the author's words are copyrighted and then "sold" to readers by the publisher. Authors (actually, their institutions and research-funding agencies) may instead prefer to pay to have their writing distributed and archived electronically (as they already do in some areas of scientific research). Or Universities, Research Institutions, Learned Societies and Government Research-Supporting Institutions, Foundations and Agencies may prefer to collaboratively under-write the expenses of supporting the distribution and archiving of electronic scholarly and scientific publication (including the peer review process). In either case, there would no longer be any point in worrying about "unauthorized" redistribution: From the author's point of view (and that of scholarship in general), it has always been true that the more scholarly eyes one's work reaches, the better. Until now, this implicit desideratum has been heavily constrained by the unavoidable economic exigencies of paper publishing and distribution. In planning the future of this new medium, however, let's not be unnecessarily constrained by possibly irrelevant features of the old model. Scholarly publishing is not trade publishing; the motivations of authors and readers are different; the reward structure is different. Below is a statement of PSYCOLOQUY's copyright policy. It's not clear why an electronic scholarly journal would want to lay claim to any more. More would amount to RESTRICTING access to an author's work, and in this medium this may no longer be necessary -- or in either the author's or the scholarly/scientific community's interest. Stevan Harnad Co-Editor, PSYCOLOQUY ------------------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from PSYCOLOQUY Publication Policy Statement: Authors of accepted manuscripts assign to PSYCOLOQUY the right to distribute their text electronically and to archive and make it permanently retrievable electronically. However, they retain the copyright, and after it has appeared in PSYCOLOQUY authors may republish their text any way they wish -- electronic or print -- as long as they clearly acknowledge PSYCOLOQUY as its original locus of publication. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:02:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: heye@LPI.DNET.NASA.GOV Subject: Re: Internet archives I, too, am having a problem accessing ftp borg.lib.vt.edu. I get a message saying "borg" is unknown. Mary Heye, Publications Services, Lunar and Planetary Institute, Houston, Texas, LPI::HEYE (NSI/DECNET) (713) 486-2143 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:53:00 GMT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: "John R. Garrett" <0004716758@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Copyright concerns Kimberly Parker, I'd like your permission to post your comment and query about publishers and copyright on a private list for publishers that I follow. I'll suggest that they respond to you directly with any comments (I'll need your e-mail address). Is that OK? John Garrett jgarrett@nri.reston.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:42:00 PST Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Linda_Dobb.Library@MAILGATE.SFSU.EDU Subject: Re: Copyright concerns just a note to let you know of a new copyright bulletin board that will have its first postings Monday. CNI-Copyright. To subscribe write to Listserv at C cni.org (Internet) Mary Brandt Jensen of South Dakota is the originator. ---------------------- Replied Message Body ---------------------- Date: 7-31-92 8:06am From: {0004716758@MCIMAIL.COM}:smtp:sfsu To: Linda Dobb:Library:sfsu Subj: Re: Copyright concerns Resent: From VPIEJ-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU Fri Jul 31 08:06:46 1992 Resent: Received: from VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU by netgate.sfsu.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) Resent: id AA13306; Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:06:46 GMT-0800 Resent: Message-Id: <9207311606.AA13306@netgate.sfsu.edu> Resent: Received: from vtvm1.cc.vt.edu by VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) Resent: with BSMTP id 3152; Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:05:15 EDT Resent: Received: from VTVM1.BITNET by vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Mailer R2.08 R208002) with Resent: BSMTP id 2480; Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:05:14 EDT Resent: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:53:00 GMT Resent: Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> Resent: Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> Resent: From: "John R. Garrett" <0004716758@MCIMAIL.COM> Resent: Subject: Re: Copyright concerns Resent: X-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Resent: Archivin" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> Resent: To: Multiple recipients of list VPIEJ-L <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kimberly Parker, I'd like your permission to post your comment and query about publishers and copyright on a private list for publishers that I follow. I'll suggest that they respond to you directly with any comments (I'll need your e-mail address). Is that OK? John Garrett jgarrett@nri.reston.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:40:00 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: 31SANDSTROM@CUA.BITNET Subject: Re: Copyright concerns John Garrett in Reston, Va.: Can I ask you to suggest to the publishers on your list to respond to Kimberly's query on this VPIEJ-L list? Is that OK Kimberly? I'll bet there are many on this list who'd be interested in the publisher point of view. Carl Sandstrom ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:28:51 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Howard Pasternack <blips15@brownvm.bitnet> Subject: Re: Let's rethink copyright policy in the electronic medium >From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@princeton.edu> > >... Scholarly publishing is >not trade publishing; the motivations of authors and readers are >different; the reward structure is different. Probably true. But this does not mean that the profit motive is not a factor. Brendan Kehoe's Zen book is a case in point. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:37:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: adams david l <vulcan@eagle.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Borg FTP address If you are getting a message saying BORG is an unknow host it could be that your system can not translate the symbolic address into an IP address. Try using the IP address. For borg.lib.vt.edu the IP address is 128.173.7.185. David. ------ David Adams Technical Library Branch, NASA Langley Research Center Internet: vulcan@eagle.larc.nasa.gov Voice: +1-804-864-2391 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:56:00 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: GMP@PSUVM.BITNET Subject: Copyrights and profit motive I am an author and editor. It is my full time profession now, but I have been working for publishing houses for the last 25 years. I know authors of all kinds, from threadbare poets to high powered "self help" book writers. I know that scholarly writers do not do it for profit. Although a first year academic publishing in a quality journal can expedite promotion and tenure, raise salary, which in turn raises TIAA contributions which, according to an accountant colleague of mine, could make an article worth about $60,000 over a lifetime in 1990 dollars. Electronic publishing can appeal to this kind of motivation. I have just begun a stint as editor of an electronic journal. I have my accountant friend keeping very close track of the costs of "publishing" and distributing a Ejournal. I suspect they are somewhat less than a paper journal (about $15,000 and issue), but we will know soon. Figuring out how to make a profit on scholarly publishing is silly. No one makes a profit on journals except for companies who contract with associations who guarantee a certain number of copies sold to the membership. That plus standing orders to libraries covers the cost and adds a margin of profit. For some houses, this can be considerable. Protecting copyrights is not as complicated as you think. For one thing, academics violate copyrights all over the place. Academics steal chapters from their colleagues and xerox them for "student packets." They do not even bother asking permission. There are several lawsuits going on about this matter. Used book publishers make money on someone else's authorship. There is a national organization working on this, too. There are very few authors who make a living at it. A good text will sell for the first two years, but if it does not hit 50,000 copies, everyone loses money. A scholarly mono- graph can get by with a sale of 750, if you price it high enough and have some libraries as regular customers. It doesn't matter who you steal with, if theft is the norm, an I assure you, there are few academics who haven't "borrowed" text without paying the fee and most of the time with precious little acknowledgment. At the moment, those who want to do Epublishing are eleemosynary and there is nothing to be done about it. But it will probably be no worse than in print publishing. When some major trade publisher decides there is a buck to be made on electronic publishing, they will, no doubt, contract with Compuserv on a fee basis and do it like pay-per-view cable. The technology for this already exists, but it is expensive. On the other hand, it is no more expensive that chopping a thousand trees, producing paper pulp and turning it into newsprint, cutting it, printing the pages, and binding them and then shipping them to individuals and dealers. How many of us can afford this? Now, the final issue -- Epublishing could mean a lot to academics seeking promotion and tenure. We have yet to document the credibility of Epublication and so electronic journals do not attract contributions. I would argue that it is absolutely necessary to distinguish between genres of publication. There are some Epublications that qualify as newsletters; some as op-ed bulletins; some as calendars of events. Some are quasi-scholarly, like the ones that feature an article with several commentaries and a rejoinder. This is an exciting form of publishing, but it doesn't make it with the "dean's promo- tion and tenure review committee." In the Ejournal I have been asked to edit, we are going to try to qualify for promotion and tenure consideration on a reasonable level. I suspect Harvard and Princeton would ignore us, but I think we could make it in the Big Ten given our editorial board and review policy (and if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere). In sum, we must do our best to maintain scholarly standards, post a copyright notice, and hope for the best. We have been doing this in print publishing for several years. You would be amazed at the number of companies that have taken Chapter 11, and I suspect a number of Epublications will go under. Piracy and copyright violation play a major role, but unless you want some form of thought police, or imposition of complex and expensive controls, you are stuck with doing the best you can. I hereby release rights to this text and acknowledge that it was inspired by the contribution of Kimberly Parker. Gerald M. Phillips Editor: _Interpersonal Computing and Technology: A Journal for the 21st Century_ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:20:13 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: BILL MCCONNELL <mcconnwf@duvm.bitnet> Subject: Re: Copyrights and profit motive In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:56:00 EDT from <gmp@psuvm> Gerald's summary of electronic publishing and scholars (promotion, etc.) is accurate and realistic. It lacks a point, however, which I would suggest is a major deterrent at this time for those with a work of value to the academic community. And that is a very basic one - the peer reviewed journals that we are discussing are not indexed (beyond their own archive). To anyone wanting(needing) exposure to the opinions of other scholars, indexing of their work has to be a significant consideration when it comes time to select a journal for publication. I am a strong supporter of our desires to get "real" electronic journals up and running. However, as an individual with a paper that I want to see given broad consideration, and as an individual that points other scholars to the strong and deep indexes(as a librarian), I am planning to publish in a journal with strong indexing. Until the electronic journal can offer that exposure, it will walk on the fringes of academia. Bill McConnell Drexel University Library Philadelphia, PA ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:30:35 EDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Editors of PMC <pmc@ncsuvm.bitnet> Subject: Re: Copyrights and profit motive In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:20:13 EDT from <mcconnwf@duvm> Bill-- I think you'll find that more than one e-journal has addressed the problem of indexing. _Postmodern Culture_ has worked fairly hard at this, and is now one of two e-journals indexed by the MLA Bibliography. There are other indexes we'd like to be covered in (including CARL's Uncover database), and we're continuing to work on them. John Unsworth _Postmodern Culture_ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:36:21 CDT Reply-To: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> Sender: "Publishing E-Journals : Publishing, Archiving, and Access" <vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet> From: Richard W Meyer <rmeyer@vm1.tucc.trinity.edu> Subject: Let's rething copyright... Unfortunately, I missed the remarks by Kimberly Parker (if she reads this a re-posting to me will be appreciated.) Pasternak quotes Harnad who said >>... Scholarly publishing is >> not trade publishing; the motivations of authors and readers are >> different; the reward structure is different. Then Howard goes on to say: > Probably true. But this does not mean that the profit motive is not > a factor. Brendan Kehoe's Zen book is a case in point. Exactly. Kehoe's book is precisely a case in point that illustrates why Hardad is correct in suggesting that copyright may need rethinking. Kehoe published first as a scholar, then as a profit seeking author. This is appropriate if we recognize what copyright is and then what roles authors and publishers play. Copyright is ostensibly a legal invention created to stimulate creative activity. Without the monopoly protection afforded by it, creative effort would face a severe disincentive brought on by the risk to the author of loss through theft. This mechanism works well for a general category of writing which conveys entertainment, cost saving or earnings increasing advice, how to information, and factual syntheses. Copyright is an effective stimulus to the novelist, textbook author, and journalist, where quantity of sales is the means of reward. However, scholars face another incentive structure, which creates a second category of publication. Given the tiered reward structure of academe, scholars are differentially rewarded by the quality of their work. In this environment, they face an incentive to associate the highest quality brand name possible with their writing. Ergo, they transfer ownership to a publisher -- copyright re- assignment becomes the means -- in return for assumption of risk by the publisher and services in the form of gatekeeping, distribution, and especially quality assessment. The higher the regard for the publication forum -- eg., respect in the field for the journal -- the higher the reward returned to the scholar. In the print realm this mechanism has worked. In the electronic, it hasn't yet. It's my assessment of his motivations that Kehoe published the first edition of ZEN because of the intellectual challenge of articulating a complex, new, navigational tool. It was a scholarly effort of sorts. It became very popular. In order to reap a significant financial return (Kehoe is an undergraduate student, not a faculty member) he was constrained to the print realm. However, there is a distinct difference between the nature of the first and second editions of ZEN. The popularity of the first edition along with the decreased need to grasp new territory caused the second edition to fall more into the first category of publication, the how to book rather than the scholarly category. This constrained Kehoe to seek his rewards in the print realm. Harnad suggests that scholars pay publishers directly to distribute their work in the electron realm. The merit in this suggestion relates to the nature of risk assignment and reward in the two realms. In the print world the publisher bears the risks, and reaps the excess of rewards over the expected return. In the electronic realm, paying the publisher up front does not transfer the risk back to the author, but the author reaps all excess return over expectations. It does overcome much of the risk factor the publisher faces because of the reproducible nature of electronic messages. That is, the publisher gets paid for offering a simple service, but doesn't have to be concerned with theft because he's been paid up front. Therefore his suggestion offers some real hope that an effective mechanism will emerge. Being paid ahead of time offers incentive to publishers to assume the costs of the other services of gatekeeping, dissemination, and archiving. But that mechanism will not solve the dilemma Kehoe faced on how to get the rewards of quantity associated with a how to publication. Is it fair to say that further thinking is required? However, that thinking may only need to be limited to how to associate benchmarks of quality with scholarly publication and how to give sales rewards for quantity to authors of non-scholarly (no pejorative intention in this choice of words is intended) items. RICHARD W. MEYER TELEPHONE: 512/736-8121 Director of the Library Trinity University 715 Stadium Dr SAN ANTONIO, TX 78212 E-MAIL: RMEYER@LIBRARY.TRINITY.EDU </rmeyer@vm1.tucc.trinity.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></mcconnwf@duvm></pmc@ncsuvm.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></gmp@psuvm></mcconnwf@duvm.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vulcan@eagle.larc.nasa.gov></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></harnad@princeton.edu></blips15@brownvm.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></harnad@princeton.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></kimberly_parker@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></jpowell@vtvm1></papakhi@iubvm.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></kahin@hulaw1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></jpw@poe.acc.virginia.edu></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></jpowell@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet></vpiej-l@vtvm1.bitnet>
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