VPIEJ-L 10/94
VPIEJ-L Discussion Archives
October 1994
========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 07:48:56 EDT Reply-To: "Charles R. Hurley" <churley@panix.com> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: "Charles R. Hurley" <churley@panix.com> Subject: Re: Citing electronic publications In-Reply-To: <199409301229.IAA40033@ipe.cc.vt.edu> Dear Mr. Collins: Try the following command: get TESLEJ-L APAGUIDE TESLEJ-L It worked for me. On Fri, 30 Sep 1994, Roger Collins wrote: > On 28th September Maggi Sokolik wrote, re the APAGUIDE:- > > "It is available, I just retrieved it".. > > Well, I tried this morning (10.30AM Sept 29th) and got the "not yet available" > message...Could it be that the LISTSERV at Berkeley is generating different > responses for internal and external clients ? ( I note that Maggi's > address is:- ...@uclink.berkeley.edu ). > > Roger Collins > U.C.C. > Kamloops, B.C. > CANADA > C. Hurley % -- % Charles R. Hurley Phone: (212) 633-3759 % Publishing Technologies Coordinator (TeX Projects) Fax: (212) 633-3685 % Elsevier Science Inc. E-mail: churley@panix.com % 655 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y. 10010-5107 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 07:49:16 EDT Reply-To: Robin Cover <robin@utafll.uta.edu> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Robin Cover <robin@utafll.uta.edu> Subject: Ordering APAGUIDE The listserver might be whacky, but you might try what I did, after having my first request fail. Use the hyper-precise syntax like "get teslej-l apaguide teslej-l" (or whatever: I forget the details), but use the third element that's hardly ever required on VM/CMS systems. That repeated specification made the difference: the guide came on my second request. Your mileage may vary. Can't prove that there's actually any magic in the full spec. r ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 07:50:11 EDT Reply-To: "Mr. Ian Pitchford" <i.pitchford@sheffield.ac.uk> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: "Mr. Ian Pitchford" <i.pitchford@sheffield.ac.uk> Subject: IPN: Request for editors and contributors ------ Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:32:48 -0500 (EST) From: ssulliva@OPAL.TUFTS.EDU (Sean Sullivan) Subject: IPN: Request for editors and contributors Send reply to: ssulliva@OPAL.TUFTS.EDU (Sean Sullivan) The Interpsych Newsletter (IPN) is currently looking for editors and contributors. Both these postitions are described below. As Interpsych grows and expands in membership and function, we believe this newsletter will be a central resource and will play an integral role in providing cohesion between the different branches of the organization and its members. We look forward to working with Interpsych in defining and shaping the way the internet is used in the next millenia. Please do not post this message to any other list as we will be posting a variant of it to the superlist later in the week. Editors: Editors will be required to work on the newsletter on a regular basis. Current plans are for the newsletter to be distributed on a monthly basis and then move to a twice monthly format in the very near future. If you are interested in working as an editor, please email me stating your interest and outlining any relevant experience that you have had. If you are interested in working on a specific section, please specify which section you are interested in working on (they are listed below). However, as the newsletter is currently in flux, specific committments cannot be made to certain sections. Contributors: Contributors will work on an irregular basis as the needs of the newsletter and their expertise dictate. If you are interested in writing for any of the sections mentioned below (or are interested in writing for the newsletter with no specific section in mind), please email me outlining your interest and relevant experience. The following is a breakdown of what will be contained in the newsletter: SECTION 0: Index SECTION 1: Mental health news This section contains short articles on recent developments in the field of mental health and relevant newstories. SECTION 2: Interpsych Update This section serves both to keep people informed and also encourage people to become active in the organization. This section contains two general article types: a) Short articles discussing current work being done at Interpsych, progress that has been made in plans etc. b) Special Interest Groups (SIGs): This section contains short summarizations of a topic of recent discussions in 4-6 SIGs. The groups will contribute on a rotating basis. This section will also list new SIGs that have been created. SECTION 3: Resource update This section will describe a new site/resource and what it contains. The aim of this section is to encourage the use of resources currently available on the net. SECTION 4: Research This section has three subsections: a) a listing of the tables of contents of Interpsych's journals b) A "Call for collaborators" c) Articles SECTION 5: Miscellaneous This section will contain a general internet column and any other contributions that do not fall into other categories. SECTION 6: Calendar/announcements This section lists conferences (physical/electronic) relevant to the Interpsych audience and makes announcements. SECTION 7: Employment a) a subsection advertising jobs b) a subsection of people looking for work SECTION 8: Letters Sean P. Sullivan Editor-In-Chief, Interpsych Newsletter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 07:50:25 EDT Reply-To: mark@csc.albany.edu Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: mark@csc.albany.edu Subject: Re: citation standards for e-journals Perhaps citation standards should depend in part on how the journal is packaged. If a journal is distributed in graphical format, with consecutively numbered pages throughout the volume, then it could (and I contend should) be referenced by volume and page numbers, precisely as one would reference an article in a print journal. After all, citations for articles in print journals generally do not contain information about the publisher. One is expected to look that up, if necessary. --Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Steinberger | Editor in Chief, New York Journal of Mathematics Dept. of Math. & Stat | SUNY at Albany | http://nyjm.albany.edu:8000/nyjm.html Albany, NY 12222 | gopher nyjm.albany.edu 1070 mark@sarah.albany.edu | ftp to nyjm.albany.edu in /pub/nyjm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 07:50:43 EDT Reply-To: "Charles R. Hurley" <churley@panix.com> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: "Charles R. Hurley" <churley@panix.com> Subject: Help on SGML. To all concerned: I am in the process of learning SGML. Can a kind soul please send me a fully compliant SGML document. One that includes the three major parts of a SGML document: first the SGML Declaration, second the Document Type Declaration (set), and finally the Document Instance. I prefer one that does not call the various parts externally, but includes all subparts (i.e., the Reference Concrete Syntax, the markup declaration, etc.). Of all the books I read on SGML, I have never seen an example of a full SGML document. I seen many examples of DTD's, document instances, and of course the Reference Concrete Syntax, but I've never seen them put together into one complete SGML electronic document (file). This is what I seek. If you know of an FTP site where such files exist please tell me. However, please make sure that they do exist. All help in my education will be heartly appreciated. My e-address is below (and above I assume). Thank you all, C. Hurley PS: The document can be on any subject, from beer nuts to specifications on the Space Shuttle. % -- % Charles R. Hurley Phone: (212) 633-3759 % Publishing Technologies Coordinator (TeX Projects) Fax: (212) 633-3685 % Elsevier Science Inc. E-mail: churley@panix.com % 655 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y. 10010-5107 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 07:51:01 EDT Reply-To: Margaret E Sokolik <msokolik@uclink.berkeley.edu> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Margaret E Sokolik <msokolik@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Getting Files (APAGUIDE) Re: the problems with TESLEJ-L's filelist--there was a conflicting file on the same listserver. The other list had a file called * A*, (with 0 filerecords) which means that any filerequest with the second name beginning with *A* would get a message sent out saying it wasn't ready yet. The offending file has been removed, and I have tried retrieving TESLEJ-L APAGUIDE without specifying the listname and it arrives safely. Thanks for your help--as it turns out, this other list on CMSA is a big problem. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Maggi Sokolik, Editor TESL-EJ msokolik@uclink.berkeley.edu = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:45:55 EDT Reply-To: Bing Wen <wenbing@statcan.ca> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Bing Wen <wenbing@statcan.ca> Subject: Re: Help on SGML. (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9410032357.aa11780@stcgate.statcan.ca> from "Pascal Vincent CALARCO" at Oct 3, 94 11:56:17 pm This book might be of some help: Bryan, Martin SGML: an author's guide to the Standard Generalized Markup Language You shall be able to find fully compliant SGML documents there. Bing Wen Statistics Canada Library /* I speak for myself only */ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 08:19:09 EDT Reply-To: irex <irex@info.irex.org> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: irex <irex@info.irex.org> Subject: IREX Grant Opportunities for US Scholars and Institutions *** IREX ANNOUNCES 1995-1996 ACADEMIC PROGRAMS *** American scholars in the humanities and social sciences are encouraged to apply for the programs described below; eligibility requirements vary by program. Please contact IREX for further information on these and other programs. International Research & Exchanges Board 1616 H Street, NW Washington, DC 20006 Tel: (202) 628-8188 Fax: (202) 628-8189 E-mail: irex%irexmain@irex.org gopher: info.irex.org, port 70 Individual Advanced Research Opportunities Application deadline: November 1, 1994 Research placement and access for predoctoral and postdoctoral scholars at institutions in the host country for a period of 2-12 months. Regions: Baltic States, Central & Eastern Europe, Mongolia, Newly Independent States. Research Residencies Application deadline: November 1, 1994 Research Residents spend 9-12 months in the host region/country pursuing individual research and improving language skills. IREX requires Research Residents to submit quarterly reports on developments in the local academic and policy communities. Regions: Albania, Baltic States, Croatia, Macedonia, Newly Independent States, Slovenia, Slovakia. Bulgarian Studies Seminar Application deadline: November 1, 1994 One-month fellowships for American scholars wishing to improve their knowledge of the Bulgarian language and culture. The seminar, held in Sofia during the month of July, consists of lectures on Bulgarian language, history, culture, and literature. Topics vary each year to complement the needs and interests of each group of scholars. Region: Bulgaria. Special Projects in Library and Information Science Application deadline: January 15, 1995 Opportunities for support of librarians, archivists, and information specialists pursuing projects relating to Central and Eastern Europe and Eurasia. Regions: Baltic States, Central & Eastern Europe, Newly Independent States. Special Projects Application deadline: March 1, 1995 Financial support for collaborative projects in the study of Central and Eastern Europe and Eurasia. Proposals from all disciplines in the humanities and social sciences are welcome. All projects must involve American and non-American participants from one or more of the eligible countries. Regions: Baltic States, Central & Eastern Europe, Newly Independent States. Short-Term Travel Grants Application deadlines: October 1, 1994; February 1, 1995; and June 1, 1995 IREX offers travel grants for scholarly projects focusing on Central and Eastern Europe, Eurasia, and Mongolia. Support is available for brief visits (1-2 weeks) for individuals who do not require administrative assistance from IREX. Regions: Baltic States, Central & Eastern Europe, Mongolia, Newly Independent States. US Host Universities for Graduate Students from Eurasia and the Baltics [Edmund S. Muskie and Freedom Support Act Fellows] Application Deadline: January 27, 1995 These Fellowships are funded through the US Information Agency and administered by IREX and three other organizations to bring graduate students from the countries of Eurasia and the Baltics for one- and two-year, degree and non-degree programs in professional fields. IREX accepts proposals from US universities with masters-level programs in economics, journalism/mass communications, and library and information science to serve as host universities for approximately 90 fellows. US Host Institutions for Teaching Assistants from Russia (Russian Teaching Assistants Program-RTAP) Application deadline: October 7, 1994 RTAP, a new program funded by the Fulbright Teacher Exchange Branch of the US Information Agency, matches Russian Teaching Assistants with US two- and four- year academic institutions. US host institutions may apply to receive teaching assistants for either a six- or eight- month program. Russian participants are recent graduates of pedagogical institutes and primarily specialists in the field of English. The TAs may also serve as resource persons in departments of Russian language and culture, either as occasional lecturers in courses related to Russian language, society, and culture. In addition to serving as a TA, the Russian participants will enroll in two to three courses per semester to broaden their understanding of their fields of specialization and/or American culture and society. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 08:18:01 EDT Reply-To: Margaret E Sokolik <msokolik@uclink.berkeley.edu> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Margaret E Sokolik <msokolik@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: TESL-EJ: Call for Manuscripts ***Please Repost, Print, and Circulate*** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** Do you want your writing to get worldwide circulation in a recognized professional journal? TESL-EJ, an electronic journal for English as a Second/Foreign Language professionals, is now read in 47 countries by thousands of readers. We have 1100 subscribers and an estimated 3,000 users via gopher and ftp. These numbers are growing daily. TESL-EJ welcomes work in a variety of areas: ESL/EFL pedagogy, research, applied linguistics, and related fields. We are registered with the U.S. Library of Congress, and we are fully refereed. ** Do you want to get your paper published quickly? In most cases, we can promise a publication decision within four weeks. Our reviewers provide detailed information for revision, when necessary. We especially encourage graduate students and new scholars to submit their work. Our Editorial Board includes (just a sample): Zoltan Dornyei, Robert Kaplan, Claire Kramsch, P. B. Nayar David Nunan, Jack Richards, John Schumann, Larry Selinker, Bernard Spolsky, Roland Sussex, Andrew Littlejohn, Barbara Kennedy Subscriptions are free. Questions about submitting your work or subscribing should be sent to: = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Maggi Sokolik, Editor TESL-EJ msokolik@uclink.berkeley.edu = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:21:09 EDT Reply-To: Bing Wen <wenbing@statcan.ca> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Bing Wen <wenbing@statcan.ca> Subject: Re: SGML/HTML conversion In-Reply-To: <pine.3.89.9410121509.a22364-0100000@class.class.org> from "Manatt" at Oct 12, 94 03:30:01 pm I believe there are commercial packages available on the market. But if the format of your documents is not complicated, you can write a WP or Word macro to do the conversion. If you know UNIX, you can write a sed script to do it. > Does anyone know about conversions back and forth between SGML and HTML? > > Teresa White > Information Services > Manatt, Phelps & Phillips > Voice: (310) 312-4000 x108 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 08:12:46 EDT Reply-To: "Jon P. Knight" <j.p.knight@lut.ac.uk> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: "Jon P. Knight" <j.p.knight@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: SGML/HTML conversion (fwd) I'm not on this list (maybe I should be!); a friend forwarded me the extract below, so this might be a bit out of date now. Forwarded message: > I believe there are commercial packages available on the market. But if > the format of your documents is not complicated, you can write a WP or > Word macro to do the conversion. If you know UNIX, you can write a sed script > to do it. > > > Does anyone know about conversions back and forth between SGML and HTML? As part of the Project ELVYN research project <url:http: elvyn="" hill.lut.ac.uk="" teststuff=""></url:http:> (that URL is ``temporary'' so don't use it for long term citations and links) I implemented a CoST (Copenhagen SGML Tool) script to translate articles conforming to a publisher's full SGML DTD into HTML documents. It was fairly painless, but then I'm a code junkie; it might not be the sort of thing you're after if you've not done any programming. The main thing I though I should point out is that with CoST (and practically any other system out there), you need to hack something up for each DTD you use. If you've only got one DTD and it doesn't change then you'll be fine. Otherwise expect to have to rehash the code for each DTD or varient of the same DTD. This is one BIG reason why all publishers considering electronic journals and books using SGML should be locked together in a small, dark room until they agree on a common DTD. If libraries and other users have to handle multiple DTDs (and, even worse IMHO, multiple bits of processing software), electronic documents will never fly (well, not from traditional publishers anyway). Jon ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 08:13:23 EDT Reply-To: Rebecca Pressman <rebeccap@eden.rutgers.edu> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Rebecca Pressman <rebeccap@eden.rutgers.edu> Subject: New LIS Electronic Journal Announcement of a New Refereed Electronic Journal: STANDPOINTS: the electronic journal of information contexts Edited by Kathleen Burnett and Hur-Li Lee Technical editor, Rebecca Pressman The theme of the 1994 ALISE (Association of Library and Information Science Education) conference in Los Angeles, "Intellectual Diversity: Cross Disciplinary Connections and Perspectives" reflects the growing interest library educators have in acknowledging the urgent need for broader and more diversified approaches to library and information studies. Among the topics discussed at the conference were various perspectives--such as multiculturalism and feminist stand point theory--and alternative research methodologies--such as ethnography. While these perspectives and approaches are not new to the field, the conference amplified voices which were previously only whispers buried in the chatter. The cry for change in our field has permeated the professional literature. The scholarly literature, however, has been slow in responding. For example, on one hand, many librarians have questioned the persistence of status and pay inequities in librarianship; on the other hand, very few studies have so far incorporated solid feminist theory into scholarly inquiry. One barrier that prevents researchers from generating such scholarship is lack of incentive. Positivist models still dominate the research paradigms of the field. Researchers are reluctant to engage in projects that employ alternative perspectives due to perceived difficulties in obtaining funding and scholarly recognition. Qualitative studies may not be valued by positivist reviewers and therefore be rejected for publication. Tenure committees may not look favorably on less well-established methodologies and may be suspicious of interdisciplinary efforts. Some of us who attended the 1994 ALISE conference see the need for creating a new forum that will provide an open environment for different voices representing a variety of points of view on and approaches to a wide range of concerns in the library and information field. We plan to publish +Standpoints: the Electronic Journal of Information Contexts+. This refereed electronic journal will be interdisciplinary, rather than disciplinary, and inclusive, rather than exclusive, in nature. It welcomes any sound research that deals with issues related to information contexts. Preference will be given to those studies taking non-traditional perspectives and/or approaches; to studies asking questions starting from lives of a wider variety of people; and to studies exhibiting interdisciplinarity. It is the sincere hope of the editors that the publication of this journal will add diversity to our field and contribute to its scholarly development. +Standpoints: the Electronic Journal of Information Contexts+ will be published quarterly. Kathleen Burnett and Hur-Li Lee, both affiliated with the School of Communication, Information, and Library Studies, Rutgers University, will serve as co-editors. Publication of the first issue is tentatively set for January 1995. Each issue will consist of two general sections, one for scholarly articles, and another for book reviews and letters. Primary distribution of +Standpoints+ will be through a WorldWideWeb server. Unlike many first-generation electronic journals, we encourage multimedia submissions in html format. We are also seeking Associate Editors. Those interested in submitting manuscripts or serving as associate editors should contact Kathy at kburnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu and Hur-Li at hurlee@eden.rutgers.edu, or send snail-mail to the attention of the editors at: Rutgers University School of Communication, Information & Library Studies 4 Huntington St. New Brunswick, New Jersey 08903 Subscription information will be forthcoming prior to the publication of the first issue. Meanwhile, we welcome any suggesions or comments. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 08:36:48 EDT Reply-To: Micheal Strangelove <mstrange@fonorola.net> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Micheal Strangelove <mstrange@fonorola.net> Subject: How to Advertise on the Internet NOW AVAILABLE For Immediate Release: October 22, 1994 Strangelove Press publishes HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET: An Introduction to Internet-Facilitated Marketing and Advertising On Friday October 21, 1994 Strangelove Press delivered hundreds of copies of the long awaited book, HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET, to the main postal station in Ottawa, Ontario. Over a year in writing and research went into the production of the book, which suffered a delay due to a wrist injury (carpal tunnel syndrome) in the right hand of the book's primary author, Michael Strangelove. Within a few days customers who have waited patiently over the past months will be receiving the first book on the basics of Internet-facilitated advertising. HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET is co-authored by Michael Strangelove, publisher of THE INTERNET BUSINESS JOURNAL, and the Journal's Editor-in-Chief, Aneurin Bosley. Written by the Publisher and Editor of the oldest publication for the commercial Internet community, HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET is destined to be the definitive teaching tool and reference work for the Internet advertising and marketing industry. Designed to be both a how- to manual and an industry reference source, this book contains the following: 27 resources and services for tracking Internet demographics 7 key tactics for marketing through online conferences 150 Internet resources for advertising and marketing 17 Internet advertising tools explained 144 visual images from the Internet 138 Internet stores and products This comprehensive guide features the largest directory of Internet advertising and marketing agencies available anywhere in print as well as a directory of 182 Internet trainers and consultants. HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET also includes a major theoretical exploration of the Internet as a catalyst for a paradigm sift and explains how this shift will change the nature of business and advertising as we approach the third millennium. In keeping with the golden rule of Internet advertising -- give back something of value to the community -- the publisher has made this essay freely available to the Internet (send e-mail to mstrange@fonorola.net with the message PARADIGM SHIFT in the subject line, or gopher to fonorola.net). HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET is a pro-active measure intended to educate the commercial Internet community on how to conduct business on the Net and profit from interacting with Internet consumers. In simple language free of both the technical jargon of the Internet and the industry jargon of marketers, this book explains advertising tools and techniques that respect Internet cultural norms. Readers will learn how to profit from the Internet while also positively contributing to the development of cyberspace as a public resource. The authors have no wish to support the rise of "door-to-door" salespeople in cyberspace and have therefore intentionally censored information from this book on firms that sell Internet e-mail addresses and consult in bulk unsolicited e-mail advertising. A year ago, when we announced our intention to publish a book on how to advertise on the Internet, our e-mail boxes where flooded with thousands of letters from the Internet community expressing concern for the protection of the unique cultural ethos of the Internet. We have made every effort to ensure that this book is a landmark of the new era of responsible commercial activity in cyberspace. Michael Strangelove CEO Strangelove Internet Enterprises, Inc. REVIEW COPIES Review copies are available on request to mstrange@fonorola.net. Please provide full postal address and name of publication in which the review will appear. How to Advertise on the Internet ISSN 1201-0758 Michael Strangelove with Aneurin Bosley, Editor in Chief, The Internet Business Journal October 1994 211 pages + i-xi (8 1/2 x 11 format) $49.50 (US and CND) Overseas orders add $10 US for postage. Prepaid orders only -- cheques only Payable to: Strangelove Press 208 Somerset Street East, Suite A Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6V2 CANADA Tel: 613-565-0982 -- Fax: 613-569-4433 Mstrange@fonorola.net Shipping and handling and all taxes included. Call for discounts on orders of five or more copies. TABLE OF CONTENTS IN BRIEF Chapter 1 Introduction 2 Internet Demographics 3 Frequently Asked Questions about Internet Advertising 4 Marketing Through Online Conferences 5 Internet Advertising Tools 6 Mosaic: The Killer Internet Marketing Application 7 Selling Through Internet Classified Ads 8 Reaching a Local Market on the International Net 9 Creating an Online Marketing Plan 10 The Costs of Internet Advertising 11 The Dangers of Internet Advertising 12 Unsolicited E-Mail 13 Competitive Intelligence in Cyberspace 14 Selling Sex in Cyberspace 15 Demonstrating Products Online 16 Marketers on Internet Marketing 17 Forums for Online Marketers 18 Internet Shoppers Speak Out 19 Directory of Internet Advertising and Marketing Agencies 20 Products on the Net: A Visual Survey 21 Directory of Internet Consultants and Trainers 22 The Internet as Catalyst for a Paradigm Shift ___________________________________________________ For a complete table of contents, Gopher to fonorola.net or send e-mail to mstrange@fonorola.net with the message FULL TOC in the subject line. WORKSHOP Marketing and Advertising on the Internet -- November 10, 1994 Ottawa, Ontario CANADA A half day workshop with Michael Strangelove. For complete information, contact info@phoenix.ca ___________________ END OF FILE ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 08:38:33 EDT Reply-To: IAN.WORTHINGTON@classics.utas.edu.au Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: IAN.WORTHINGTON@classics.utas.edu.au Subject: *ELECTRONIC ANTIQUITY* 2, 3 As a subscriber to *Electronic Antiquity* you are now being contacted to let you know that Volume 2 Issue 3 (October 1994) is now available. A list of contents and access instructions follow. *ELECTRONIC ANTIQUITY: COMMUNICATING THE CLASSICS* ISSN 1320-3606 Peter Toohey (Founding Editor) Ian Worthington (Editor) EDITORIAL BOARD Jenny Strauss-Clay (Virginia) Elaine Fantham (Princeton) Joseph Farrell (Pennsylvania) Sallie Goetsch (Michigan) Mark Golden (Winnipeg) Peter Green (Austin) William Harris (Columbia) Brad Inwood (Toronto) Barry Powell (Wisconsin) Harold Tarrant (Newcastle, NSW) VOL. 2 ISSUE 3 - OCTOBER 1994 (01) LIST OF CONTENTS (02) ARTICLES McDonald, James, 'Suppplementing Thucydides' Account of the Megarian Decree' Withers, Paul, 'Composing Tragedies in the Greek Style' (03) REVIEWS Bishop, J., 'A.J. Boyle (ed), *Roman Epic*' Clarke, J., 'R.J. Edgeworth, *The Colors of the Aeneid*' Harrison, G.W.M. 'A. Lintott, *Imperium Romanum*' (04) EMPLOYMENT ENGLAND: Chair in Ancient History, University of Manchester NEW ZEALAND: Lecturer in Classics, University of Canterbury, Christchurch USA: Asst. Professor in Women's Studies University of California, Irvine (05) KEEPING IN TOUCH Conference: Israel Society for the Promotion of Classical Studies (call for papers) Electronic Forums & Repositories for the Classics by Ian Worthington (06) GUIDELINES FOR CONTRIBUTORS *Electronic Antiquity* Vol. 2 Issue 3 - October 1994 edited by Peter Toohey and Ian Worthington antiquity-editor@classics.utas.edu.au ISSN 1320-3606 ------------------------ A general announcement (aimed at non-subscribers) that the journal is available will be made in approximately 12 hours time over the lists - as a subscriber you will be automatically contacted in advance when future issues are available. The editors welcome contributions (all articles will be refereed, however a section - *Positions* - will exist for those wishing to take a more controversial stance on things). HOW TO ACCESS Access is via gopher or ftp. The journal file name of this issue is 2,3-October1994. Previous issues may also be accessed in the same way. GOPHER: -- info.utas.edu.au and through gopher: -- open top level document called Publications -- open Electronic Antiquity. -- open 2,3-October1994 -- open (01)contents first for list of contents, then other files as appropriate FTP: -- FTP.utas.edu.au (or ftp.info.utas.edu.au) --> departments --> classics --> antiquity. -- In Antiquity you will see the files as described above. Since a few people had problems accessing the journal via ftp, here are the stages in more detail: at your system prompt: FTP at the subsequent prompt: open FTP.utas.edu.au at login prompt: anonymous at password: your username (which won't show) then: cd departments then: cd classics then: cd antiquity then: ls -l then: cd 2,3-October1994 then: ls -l You will now have a list of the various directories (the 'd' beginning each line 'drwx....' indicates you're dealing with a directory) then: cd (into whichever directory you want) then: ls -l If the first character in the line is not 'd', you've got a file. Use the 'get' command plus the file name to download. If you're still in a directory, use the 'ls-l' command to list its contents. Use 'get' to transfer files. To move back up the directory tree: type: cdup then: ls -l And repeat the process. If still having trouble, try, once you have the directory list for the journal: Type (for example) cd (01)Contents Your response should be 'CWD command successful', but no list. Type ls-l Your response should be in a form such as: -rw-rw-r--1 1689 77030 DATE TIME contents Type get contents and you should have a copy. A final alternative if a space is magically inserted in the parenthesis of the file number is to specify: CD ./(01)Contents Please also be very careful when ftping *not* to leave *any* spaces in file names or make typos. The best way to access the journal (in terms of both ease and time) is by gopher, and we would urge you to do so. The structure of the journal is also more easily recognisable on gopher. Queries and contributions may be directed to the editors at: antiquity-editor@classics.utas.edu.au Peter Toohey (ptoohey@metz.une.edu.au) Ian Worthington (ian.worthington@classics.utas.edu.au) (end) ============== __--_|\ / oz \ \__.--._/ V tas Ian Worthington, Department of Classics, University of Tasmania, Hobart, Tasmania 7001, Australia. Tel. (002) 20-2294 (direct) Fax (002) 20-2288 e-mail: Ian.Worthington@classics.utas.edu.au James Powell ... Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU 1-4986 ... JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU ... jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here ... Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://borg.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://oldborg.lib.vt.edu:70/ file://borg.lib.vt.edu/~ftp ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:25:06 EDT Reply-To: "ADLC000, Marcos Silva, McGill University" <adlc@musica.mcgill.ca> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: "ADLC000, Marcos Silva, McGill University" <adlc@musica.mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: How to Advertise on the Internet NOW AVAILABLE In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of MON 24 OCT 1994 08:36:48 EDT Is it just me or does anyone else resent the use of this list by Michael Strangelove to promote and sell his products? > >Strangelove Press publishes >HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET: >An Introduction to Internet-Facilitated Marketing and Advertising > QUIT ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 16:58:38 EDT Reply-To: Julie Mangin <jmangin@nalusda.gov> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Julie Mangin <jmangin@nalusda.gov> Subject: Re: How to Advertise on the Internet NOW AVAILABLE (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:04:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Julie Mangin <jmangin@nalusda.gov> To: "ADLC000, Marcos Silva, McGill University" <adlc@musica.mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: How to Advertise on the Internet NOW AVAILABLE On Tue, 25 Oct 1994, ADLC000, Marcos Silva, McGill University wrote: > Is it just me or does anyone else resent the use of this list > by Michael Strangelove to promote and sell his products? > > > >Strangelove Press publishes > >HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET: > >An Introduction to Internet-Facilitated Marketing and Advertising In light of the fact that Harper/Collins is releasing a book by the notorious "Green Card" lawyers on advertising on the Internet, I was very interested to hear about Dr. Strangelove's book. I wonder if it will be more sensitive to the culture of the Internet and of Usenet than Canter and Siegel's approach. So, I guess I'm not disturbed that Dr. Strangelove used VPIEJ-L to announce his book. So far, it's the only one of the lists or newsgroups to which I belong that I have seen it mentioned. Altogether a more civilized approach than the "spamming" of the net that Canter & Siegel did with the green card ad. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%* Julie Mangin Head, Collections Management Section Internet: jmangin@nalusda.gov Document Delivery Services Branch USDA, National Agricultural Library Telephone: (301)504-5879 Beltsville MD 20705 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:01:37 EDT Reply-To: GEDYER@oup.co.uk Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: GEDYER@oup.co.uk Subject: Re: How to Advertise on the Internet NOW >Is it just me or does anyone else resent the use of this list >by Michael Strangelove to promote and sell his products? >> >>Strangelove Press publishes >>HOW TO ADVERTISE ON THE INTERNET: >>An Introduction to Internet-Facilitated Marketing and Advertising I personally was pleased to hear about Michael Strangelove's new book. However, I believe the key to whether a message such as his should be posted on to any particular list is whether it is relevant to the *majority* of list members. There are a number of lists (e.g. INET-MARKETING and HEP2-L) which are specifically devoted to Internet Marketing and I imagine Michael posted his message to these and received a warm welcome. Lists such as VPIEJ are a more of a grey area. I haven't done an analysis of the membership of this list, but I suspect that the largest single group of members are librarians, most of whom are unlikely to be getting involved in advertising on the Internet themselves. Perhaps just a two line message and contact details on lists such as these in future, Michael. What do others think? Richard Gedye Oxford University Press gedyer@oup.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 08:19:06 EDT Reply-To: "Michael R. Boudreau" <boudreau@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: "Michael R. Boudreau" <boudreau@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: How to Advertise on the Internet NOW >I suspect that the >largest single group of members are librarians I wonder why anyone would suspect this. As for Strangelove's book, it does seem relevant to the topic of electronic publishing (advertising is a kind of publication, after all)...although perhaps a less "commercial" seeming message might have gone over better. --Michael Boudreau University of Illinois Press ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:32:27 EDT Reply-To: Raleigh Muns <srcmuns@umslvma.umsl.edu> Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: Raleigh Muns <srcmuns@umslvma.umsl.edu> Subject: Re: Strangelove's ad I agree that Strangelove's "ad" posted to VPIEJ-L does indeed fall in a gray area. The beauty of the net is that if he made a mistake, hundreds, if not thousands of people, will let him know. As far as the point that since this is a "How to Do Business" work that we librarians would not find it of use, I immediately forwarded the announce- ment to our collection development officer for purchase not because I wanted or needed it personally, but that our patrons would find such a work of use. I will state unambiguously that I would NOT recommend purchase of Cantor and Siegel's(infamous net-spamming immigration lawyers) upcoming work. The dif- ference is that being familiar with the net, Strangelove's work, and Cantor and Siegel's work, I feel Strangelove's products will more accurately rep- resent and direct our business students/patrons on how to "do it" the right way. Of course, I could be wrong! Wouldn't be the first time . . . Oh. On second thought, I actually MIGHT get Cantor and Siegel's work for historic purposes (kind of like getting KKK tracts for sociologists, eh?). Given a limited budget, Strangelove wins over Cantor and Siegel. Raleigh Muns / Reference Librarian / SRCMUNS@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU Thomas Jefferson Library / University of Missouri-St. Louis Stated opinions are not endorsed by the University of Missouri ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:32:59 EDT Reply-To: RANDALLP@delphi.com Sender: Electronic Journal Publishing List <vpiej-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu> From: RANDALLP@delphi.com Subject: Mac newspaper hardware/software? Hello all, I'd like to know if anyone can help me with these questions on mac software/hardware implimentations through a newspaper business. Maybe suggestions on other newsgroups or mailing lists, etc. 1) Need Mac equipment to do plain paper halftones w/ Nikon coolscan 2) Enough memory to handle 5 days of wire copy 3) No pagination- Ads-Classifieds Color pics direct to film Network ability to shut out advertising Thanks in advance! 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